So it is 'THE' Pickering! Based on the context of comments, I got the impression it might be a different Pickering. Yes, clear skies don't necessarily mean quality, and my suggestion of a 'super good' category was made only with tongue in cheek. However, although Arizona may not be noted for its good seeing, there have been times, I remember once north of Payson and a few times at my observatory, where the seeing was very good, and where very faint rings probably would have been able to have been seen. I am certain the third ring would not have been brighter than the second, though. I cannot see the fourth ring. I guess this means the 'seeing' in the room of your monitor is better than mine as determined by the Pickering scale! True? Stan jack.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > No criticism of you intended. Pickering (1858-1938) isn't alive anymore, and > attacking his scale is a very common thing in print and on the Internet, so > don't worry about that. Many valid criticisms have been aired such as yours > and some dismiss it altogether and use different means to rate seeing. I was > talking about Mr. Damian Peach, who made the simulation, and is very alive > and well I hope. I think he did a good job for the purposes it was intended, > and any departure from "theory" in it I don't think is really relevant to > the demonstration. BTW, when you turn out the room lights, you can actually > see a fourth ring! It is there! As for clear skies, quantity doesn't mean > quality. > > Jack > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.