As a novice observer I have a general question about the difference between seeing (turbulence) conditions in the Phoenix metro area and out in the desert. I went to Cherry Rd last Friday. Weather was perfect. Dark, clear, calm and transparent. But the seeing was poor, too jiggly to observe planets or double stars. Still great for DSOs however. I was out in my backyard the night before and the weather pattern was similar. At home, Fountain Hills, on Thursday the seeing was quite good and I watched double stars with no problems. So my question is whether this situation was an anomoly or is it common for seeing to be better in the city than out in the desert? Regards Bill Wood -- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. See this message's header if you want info about unsubscribing or the list's archive. This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.