I also observed the two comets Saturday night, from a dark-sky site in the Southern California desert. Agree with Steve's comments; Tuttle and M33 did look similar, but the comet had noticeably higher surface brightness than the galaxy. Were in same field of view with 10x50 binoculars; could not see Tuttle naked-eye. If anybody images Tuttle and M33 together, please post a link. Thanks. --Joe Orman Steve Coe wrote: Comet Holmes is much dimmer than before, I would guess about 4.5 magnitude. It is larger and lower surface brightness. I can still see it with just naked eyes, but it is fainter than the Double Cluster and somewhat larger. Naked eye I say it is about the same brightness as the Andromeda Galaxy. Using the ED80 refractor and a 27mm Panoptic eyepiece gives a nice view. The comet takes up about 60% of the field of view and the central elongated bright section is still pretty easy to see. It took a while to find Comet Tuttle, but once we did it is also nicely displayed in the 80mm RFT. This comet is round with a bright core. Averted vision makes it much larger in size. In my widest eyepiece, a 35mm Panoptic, Comet Tuttle and M 33 are at the opposite edges of the field of view. They look rather similar. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.