[AZ-Observing] Re: Roadless Act Input Sought by State

  • From: Brian Skiff <bas@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:44:25 -0700 (MST)

     Bear in mind the tremendous bureaucracy under which the USFS
operates, and remember that on any given day they probably get pulled
in five different directions.  Jeff's experience seems to have been
one-sided, and contrary to most folks'.  It would nevertheless be good
if someone from the clubs could attend and report if anything
significant happened.  It could well be that the road-closures
that are being suggested would be helpful for the astro-camping,
since it might reduce unwelcome traffic in the same region.  As Andrew
(I think) suggested, the roads they'd like to close are probably 
disused ones from logging operations decades ago, and not the graded
ones to regular sites for observing.  A possible parallel example
was 10 or more years ago when Lowell/USNO wanted to rejigger the
special-use area at Anderson Mesa to accomodate the Navy interferometer.
The Forest Service thought it was great because it allowed them to
block off at least half a dozen "roads" created by boneheads in
monster trucks who drive out onto undisturbed areas during the spring
snowmelt, producing deep ruts, which produces all sorts of erosion
problems.  Such ruts take many decades to "heal".  The low split-rail
fence around the interferometer forced everyone to use the legit trail
(still ungraded) that goes out onto the Mesa well east of the 
telescope site.  

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