I'd be surprised to learn that the clear-sky statistics for Tucson are dramatically different than for Flagstaff. In round numbers: about 100 photometric (cloudfree dusk-to-dawn) nights annually, and about another 100 nights either partly clear or with thin cirrus only. In his last several years at Lowell, Ray Bertram kept records of "workable" nights when he was using the 1.8-m telescope (as the OSU observer). Since he was doing spectroscopy, and wasn't picky about exposure times, he found that there weren't very many nights (10-15% only) where he couldn't get any data at all. But when you get to where you're taking a 2-hour exposure on something that shouldn't take more than 20 minutes you start to wonder about the science per dollar ratio. But you can get desparate for transient events.... I'm pretty sure I wouldn't call such nights "clear", however. If you scan through the main decadal indexes for PASP under the topic "observatory sites" you'll find some papers with seeing and cloudiness stats for KPNO, Sac Peak, and Flagstaff. All use less restrictive definitions of "clear" than mine, but not as bad as the chamber of commerce would use. \Brian --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.