Jeff, I'd be interested to know how many times you get better photometry "between the clouds" than on Clear Nights? I'd guess that after a storm system moves through it clears the sky pretty well. Have you found this to hold water/ Clear Skies Rick Tejera President, Editor SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club Phoenix, Arizona www.saguaroastro.org saguaroastro@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Hopkins Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:29 PM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; hubble_edwin@xxxxxxxxx; isac_81@xxxxxxxxxxx; keith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Photometric Night Definition While I have no doubt there is at least one official criteria for a photometric night, to me it means being able to obtain good photometry. Take last night, it was nearly completely overcast at sunset. Shortly thereafter there were breaks in the clouds. I doubt few would say it was a photometric night, but indeed it was (between the clouds). Many nights I do BTCP (between the clouds photometry) and get excellent results. Last night of 3 sets of readings the V has a data spread standard deviation of 0.0026, B 0.0031 and U of 0.0055 magnitudes. Last night was certainly a photometric night between the clouds (PNBTC). Jeff At 10:47 -0700 02/12/2007, edwin hubble wrote: >In response to Keith Schlottman's question, two days >ago, I can contribute the following: > >As I understand it, the Sloan Digital Sky Survey >standard for a photometric night is as follows: > >During the night, the repeated measurements of >brightness of an object, very carefully calibrated >with all sky photometric reference stars, should have >a root mean square deviation from the mean of less >than 0.02 magnitude. > >They use a dedicated 50 cm photometric calibration >instrument to do this, next to the 2.5 meter survey >telescope. > >Their photometric calibration stars have been observed >by the Naval Observatory in Flagstaff. > >A specification much tighter than 0.02 would give too >few nights to be practical. > > Victor Herrero > hubble_edwin@xxxxxxxxx > http://hubbleed.bravehost.com/ -- Jeff Hopkins HPO SOFT Counting Photons http://www.hposoft.com/Astro/astro.html Hopkins Phoenix Observatory 7812 West Clayton Drive Phoenix, Arizona 85033-2439 U.S.A. www.hposoft.com -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.