Dan, I agree with you on the fact that students in this day and age do not know how to choose means of just about anything. When calculators were allowed to be used the pencil and paper method of +, -, x, and / are no longer used. Many said the same when slide rules were replaced with the calculators ! I guess the point is that the answer is more important than the means, as it is faster and more accurate. Maybe in the future we "Dinosaurs" will be remembered. Ken Sikes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heim" <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:29 AM Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Oscilloscope In these litigious times students (at least in high schools) would not be allowed to work with such high voltages, though the teacher could demonstrate these things. What bothers me more is that the important process of "measurement" is so automated these days. Whether you're talking about voltage, force, speed, temperature, or whatever, the measurement transducer is coupled to a computer where software generates a graph of whatever quantity is being measured. Sure, it's faster and more accurate, but I fear the students are missing out on what "measurement" is all about ... choosing a suitable "transducer," how to read the output of an analog or digital device, data uncertainty, choice of graph axes, etc. Dan Heim On 11/12/2011 3:35 AM, DBogan3220@xxxxxxx wrote: > A PC card for an osciloscope, oh how boring High Schools are no fun > anymore. I wonder what they do when the students want to make a Jacobs > ladder. or > a classic tesla coil, too make your hair stand on end! > > Dwight > > > In a message dated 11/11/2011 9:29:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > High schools these days (and colleges) mostly use the PC equivalent of > an oscilloscope. Special card for a standard mobo slot. Gives all the > usual I/O. Interfaces with spreadsheets and graphing apps. You might > find a physics teacher somewhere who'd use it to demonstrate analog > systems, or in place of that special (expensive) card. > > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.