Hmm. If you've tried the area and found it wanting, I doubt if the geology and air currents have changed much in a few years. The site is only a few miles closer than the Cherry Road site, which is a pretty good site to use (Monsoons permitting). Richard Harshaw Cave Creek, AZ -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of stanlep@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:30 AM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Occultation attempted at Badger Springs Road > Close-in site for N Phx? Hmmm, sounds like it might be worth checking out > some night, Jack. I would be in interested in your assessment of the sky quality because I would not think it would be a good observing spot. Yes, it is further away from the Phx light, but the site is set down in hills, not on top a hill or wide flat terrain. There should be more turbulance as cold air drains down into Badger Wash and the Agua Fria. I also used to observe in a wide open area 6 miles up from Badger Springs road off Bloody Basin road. Like clockwork, around 10pm the skies would become turbulent. So, I would be interested in the expert opionion of your's and Jack's as to the astronomical sky observing quality of the site. Off to a new year. I think this one will be better than the last, not counting the housing crisis and the deteriorating economy, and I definitely have a positive attitude. Stan > > > Richard Harshaw > Cave Creek, AZ > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.