AJ, I haven't been further east on the road toward the Agua Fria river. When I said it is a muddy quagmire, this is when there are a lot of rains. As a result, the roads can be deeply rutted, but I have no idea of the condition now. Even when rutted, I do not think you would have a problem. But again, if you cannot get all the way in to where the outhouse(?) is, you can always set up before then. Maybe it isn't known, but the Agua Fria river area is a national monument. There are nature people that go into the area. It would seem that the road should, most of the time, be good. I doubt you would have a problem. Stan > I've been following this thread and am wondering about the road to the > site. > There has been discussion about its condition and I'd like to know if a > family sedan can make it safely. That is without tearing out a > transmission, front or back bumper. > > I've never been down this road so this is all new to me and the > accessibility for a family sedan is an important criteria. > > Any comments on this topic? > > AJ Crayon > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.