And livin' proof of that is the group of car dealers just west of the 101-I10 intersection on I10. If you drive west at night and are by yourself you can see your car's shadow in the ditch on the north side of the interstate!! Good Grief!! Beevo (aka Bill VanOrden) >legislation in Arizona that limited outdoor lighting. >Sorry to say that those laws are rarely enforced in the Phoenix area. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.