Hello all; A small group comprised of myself, Lynn B. and Glen N. made the trek out to Flatiron last night. What we experienced is a reminder that tenacity is a desirable observing trait. Upon arrival at about 6:30pm, the weather was iffy but promising with a light and variable breeze out of the SW. However, by 8pm the wind had risen to a sustained 25mph+ howl, with gusts quite a bit stronger than that. I began to worry about my scope, which of course I had just finished setting up and collimating. Fortunately, it is a stable weather vane, orienting itself against the wind direction with a ponderous slowness that is easy to control. We stood around, uneasy, unable to observe. By 10:00pm, Glen had enough and packed up and left. Lynn and I huddled on the lee side of my car and watched cloud formations form overhead, organize themselves, and march off toward Phoenix. It was fascinating to see them materialize "out of thin air" and rather quickly coagulate against the reletive darkness of the starry sky beyond. It definitely felt as if a "front" was moving through, and the barometric pressure was probably changing big-time. We waited and watched the meteorological show. Luckily, our perseverence paid off. By 11:30, the gale had subsided a bit. At first I thought it was a tease, and that the howling would recommence at any moment. But, right at midnight, and rather suddenly it seemed, calm descended on us. We got some good viewing in under steadily improving conditions until about 3am. Highlights of the evening with the 14.25" f7 Newt include: The region about M 84 and M 86: Talk about galaxy alley! My favorites of this area are NGCs 4435 and 4438, a close pair just east of M 86. 4438's shape seems "distorted" to my eye, and looking at notes confirms that there may be some galaxy interaction going on. Several times I could barely make out hints of spiral structure in 4438, but it was tough to tell. I can report that many night's observations are a scope bump or two away from M 86. M 8 and M 20: OK, so these are completely obvious objects. What is noteworthy is that last night was the first time I viewed them at this aperture and with a UHC filter. Both were glorious, particularly the Lagoon, which exhibited nebulous billows and tendrils beyond the 100x, 51 minute FOV that constitutes "low" power for me. With the UHC, a 3-D effect kicked in, something I have seen before only in M 42. Outstanding! All-in-all, enduring the forces of Nature (deserving of the capital "N" last night) turned out to be well worth it! Matt --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003 -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.