We were just southwest of Four Peaks from 8:20 to 9:10, and did not convincingly see a ruddy glow. I will have to admit that we did see a couple Geminids. The two photos taken with the 20mm lens (ISO 800, f/2.2, 20 sec.) on the car-roof tripod are here: http://members.cox.net/tpolakis/astro/noaurora1.jpg http://members.cox.net/tpolakis/astro/noaurora2.jpg Pointer stars in the Big Dipper in the lower left corner of "noaurora1". I particularly like the Beehive rising over Four Peaks in "noaurora2". Tom -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.