Stan, Based on my own dealings with local stores, your experience is typical. I have been buying all of my toys and virtually everything else via the internet/mail order for the past 10-15 years in part due to the exact problem you mention. The UPS truck has worn a path to our house :) Besides getting unopened factory new stuff, the internet lets me avoid the time, risk and cost of travel to/from local stores and I can always beat local dealer's prices. The two Meade/Celestron internet dealers I can recommend are Astronomics http://www.astronomics.com/ and Anacortes http://www.buytelescopes.com/. OPT was ok but I had a problem with them reneging on a price deal I made with a certain salesman; they relented after I insisted that they honor the agreement but I never went back. It is always a good idea to check internet vendor's ratings at a site like ResellerRatings.com. Good luck with your new stuff. Regards, Bill Wood Fountain Hills, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Gorodenski" <stan_gorodenski@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: [AZ-Observing] Meade Dealers > > How typical are these experiences of mine? I do not like to buy things > that have been previously opened but it seems this is a problem with > having to go through dealers. Maybe buying through internet dealers is > the only way to avoid this. > Stan -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.