Try this page for a reference as to the Pickering scale: http://uk.geocities.com/dpeach_78/pickering.htm I keep a copy of this animation on my laptop to use in the field but a static version can be printed out too. After a lot of practice I have become pretty good estimating seeing based on this scale. I am working on comparing the Pickering scale method to Brian Skiff's equal double star method of evaluating seeing. The Pickering scale is based on a 5" refractor. I haven't been able to do side-by-side comparisons but in night-to-night comparisions there is a significant difference between my 90mm f/5.6 refractor and my 128mm f/8.1 refractor. The smaller the scope and/or shorter the f/l, the better the seeing looks. I don't know whether aperture or focal length is the more important factor. The difference is even more dramatic going from the 5" refractor to a 10" f/12 D-K Cassegrain. My ususal rating in the 10" is more like 3/10. Regards, Bill Wood Fountain Hills, AZ > -----Original Message----- > From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Andrew Cooper > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:29 AM > To: AZ-Observing mailing list > Subject: [AZ-Observing] Mars-Moon Conjunction > > > The seeing was poor to fair, a pickering 5 perhaps judging from the airy > disk. Need to print out a version of the Pickering Scale for the > reference section of my observing notebook. My refractor being similar > to the instruments he designed the scale for. > > > Good night, > > Andrew > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.