I agree, I have tried to use the Polaris region, but too often the northern part of the sky is in the light dome of some city. Not a surprise when we head south of the cities (Tucson or Phoenix) towards the border to get a good southern sky. This is very true at Vekol, TIMPA and the Las Cienegas sites. I too use a field near zenith. You just have to have some charts along that have the needed info, the planetarium software package I use in my palmtop computer can provide such at any time. I just pick a good asterism near Zenith and try to find the dimmest star I can see. Then I look it up on the Palm as it has some impact on my dark adaptation even when red with a bit of red plastic in front. Andrew Brian Skiff wrote: > For tests like these, I prefer to use seasonal fields rather than >stars near the celestial pole. The pole is too low, and if you use >stars (for instance) in Ursa Minor, then they are really only >accessible up-high during spring. > I have copied to the Lowell ftp area a list that goes from mag 4 >to mag 14 in the vicinity of the Coma galaxy cluster: > >ftp://ftp.lowell.edu/pub/bas/coma.seq > >I would try viewing this only when the field is within, say, 2 hours >of the meridian (early evening these days). > FOr the record, I can usually pick up the V=7.35 star in this list >from Anderson Mesa without spending much time on it, though this is >much fainter than Steve's "faintest star that I held steady", and on a >few occasions have seen the V=7.94 star. At Sunglow Ranch one time, >Bernie saw the V=7.97 star without knowing of its existence beforehand. > The top of the list is copied below, but the complete list with >some text is at the ftp area. > >\Brian > > > >Stars in the region of the Coma Galaxy Cluster > >Name alt name RA (2000) Dec V B-V spec Remarks >HD 114710 beta Com 13 11 52 +27 52.7 4.25 0.57 G0V >HD 113996 41 Com 13 07 11 +27 37.5 4.79 1.49 K5III >HD 112989 37 Com 13 00 16 +30 47.1 4.90 1.16 G9III sl var >HD 111812 31 Com 12 51 42 +27 32.4 4.94 0.67 G0III >HD 111469 30 Com 12 49 17 +27 33.1 5.76 0.03 A2V >HD 114092 13 07 54 +27 33.4 6.18 1.36 K4III >HD 113865 13 06 10 +29 01.8 6.52 0.08 A3IV >HD 112734 12 58 34 +28 19.2 6.95 0.23 A5 >HD 112887 12 59 33 +28 03.9 7.17 0.42 F4V >HD 113493 13 03 49 +31 00.1 7.35 1.06 K0III >HD 113284 13 02 21 +30 21.5 7.94 0.35 F1IV >HD 112753 12 58 41 +27 28.4 7.97 0.65 G1V ADS 8721 >HD 112886 12 59 33 +28 14.3 8.16 0.44 F7V > > >-- >See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please >send personal replies to the author, not the list. > > > > > -- Andrew Cooper ---------------------------------------------------- http://www.siowl.com -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.