Jack, Rima Birt is definitely a seeing-driven object in small scopes like mine. The atmosphere settled and all of a sudden it snapped into view from end-to-end. This was at 227x. Matt -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Luttinen Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:32 PM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Lunar observing tonight Jack, I can make out only the north end of this feature, and then only when the seeing settles. It seems to terminate at a small crater. This is with my 120mm at 227x. Matt -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Jones Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:13 PM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Lunar observing tonight Running north from the crater Birt and parallel with Rupes Recta the Straight Wall, is a cleft called Rima Birt that is supposed to be visible in larger telescopes according to Rukl's. I can see it with the Club 6", barely with 90x and definitely at 250x. Very very fine. The cleft and the wall both end simultaneously at their north ends. John Holmquist knew how to grind a mirror. Jack Jones Saguaro Astronomy Club Lunar List Awards and Messier Marathon Co-coordinator Phoenix AZ spicastar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.