[AZ-Observing] Re: Light Trespass Story in Republic
- From: "Jack Jones" <Telescoper@xxxxxxx>
- To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:06:05 -0700
And I will disagree with the other point. The Judge must put in the order that
the motion sensors be adjusted correctly or some such verbiage! Also you need
to speak with the ignorant (not idiot) neighbors about adjusting their motion
sensors. If I did it with mine, so can you.
Where's Sam Herschak when we need him?
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Heim" <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:17 AM
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Light Trespass Story in Republic
I disagree with only one point. Full cutoff fixtures are EASY to find. Go
to the IDA website and look at their list of approved lighting fixture
manufacturers. Of course, you all knew that, but your neighbors probably
don't. That's one of the many reasons public outreach is so important for
our clubs. And I'm not just talking about "star parties" here ... I'm
talking about letter (to the editor) writing, talks to schools and other
civic groups, willingness to be interviewed, etc. If we don't do it, who
will?
Dan Heim
President
Desert Foothills Astronomy Club
http://www.dfacaz.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "William R Wood" <w.wood@xxxxxxx>
To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:56 AM
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Light Trespass Story in Republic
> Motion sensors are not necessarily much help because many users set the
> sensitivity and duration controls way too high. My idiot neighbors have
> bright unshielded porch lights and shielded flood lights on motion sensors
> but the sensitivity is set so high that birds flying by trigger the lights
> (slight exaggeration but not much) and the duration setting is also maxed
> out so that the lights stay on at least 30 min every time they are
> triggered. But since the sensitivity is set so high, the lights are
always
> re-triggered (joggers, walkers, cars driving by, etc) before they shut
off,
> so the lights are on continusly all night, every night, with rare
exception.
> If the lights are off by some chance, I set them off myself if I put out
the
> trash at the end of my driveway or pick up the newspaper early in the
> morning.
>
> Also full cutoff light fixtures are virtually impossible to find and not
> that much help. The light bulbs used by most security lights are so
bright
> that the glare and reflected light from the beam hitting the house and
> ground are as bright as normal light fixtures. Our nightime view is
> completely destroyed by the neighbors shielded flood lights and it is
> impossible to use my telescope or camera in the front yard due solely to
the
> bright reflected light.
>
> Light tresspass is like second hand smoke was 20 years ago. Smokers were
> assumed to have the absolute right to smoke just as light users are now
> assumed to have the right to blast light at their neighbors. Non smokers
> made a lot of noise and things changed.
>
> Regards
>
> Bill Wood
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Jones" <Telescoper@xxxxxxx>
> To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 8:01 PM
> Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Light Trespass Story in Republic
>
>
> I didn't see one mention of motion sensors. That should be the Judge's
> ruling.
> A few of those and a full-cutoff light fixture would save a ton of legal
> fees...
>
> Jack
>
>
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