I wonder if others noticed that seeing in Phoenix was very good last night? I was testing a new drive motor on my Schaefer mount and used my old 6" f/16 Cassegrain to obtain high power. From about 10 pm till 11:30 pm Jupiter was rock steady and showed a lot of detail at 200x. I then rolled out the 14" Dob and it was even better, especially with green and blue filters. At around 10 pm the south equatorial belt was divided into two distinct strips across most of the disk, with structure visible in between. Later, the strips began to merge as Jupiter rotated. The north equatorial belt and north and south temperate belts were clear. By about 11: 25 when Europa emerged from shadow all four bright moons showed disks, but the seeing was deteriorating. This was the type of seeing that's very steady without those fleeting moments of "super-seeing". -Paul Lind -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.