OK here is a link to one of the post on Astro officers that gives the = best information on beam dispersment etc. I believe the author was = replying to a member of the group and is involved in some way in the = laser industry: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astro-officers/message/5066 You may want to look at the whole thread for more info & opinion. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Russell Chmela~ [mailto:rchmela@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:06 PM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Instant criminals=20 A cockpit windscreen in most of the standard airliners is about the same size as that of an automobile , just double glazed and flat in its shape. =20 What I find odd about the whole thing is that (and someone with more laser knowledge help me out here if this is not correct) a beam from a green pointer would likely diverge and spread if going through all of that glass at an angle. If coming from the ground, it will be an angle and a steep one. The amount of power left would be little or no harm to vision and like Thad said, how can you track a retina with a hand pointer given the large angle movement between those two? The way I see it, its just more paranoia on the part of airlines=20 and government. I would be a lot more worried if that green beam was trying to lock onto an engine. Instead of worrying about George Lucas type threats , maybe the security types should be worried about the=20 hundreds of shoulder carried SAM rockets (infrared) out there and=20 be a bit more realistic.=20 Not a pilot, but very enthusiast on aircraft. Not bored , but photon deprived. =20 RC ---------------------------------- Added bonus thoughts....How big is a cockpit window? How much control=20 would someone from say, a mile or two, have to possess to point a laser in that area, even=20 momentarily, while it's moving at a few hundred mph? Is it feasible to think that someone *could* do=20 it by *hand*? I know there are some pilots in the group, what are your thoughts? Just bored on a Tuesday afternoon, =20 --=20 -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and = please=20 send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.