please remove me from your email list nyclady@xxxxxxx Lucia Wheele luciawheele@xxxxxxxxx 602-686-0463 -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Blackburn Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:18 PM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Info: Dispersed Camping Guidelines - Coconino NF... Chris, Have you thought about Bargman Park, as it is not such a bowl as FM and may have better seeing. Lynn ________________________________ From: Chris Hanrahan <chris.hanrahan@xxxxxxx> To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:15 PM Subject: [AZ-Observing] Info: Dispersed Camping Guidelines - Coconino NF... Hey Steve, Thanks for looking into this at the Ranger Station. I read that you "paced off...300 feet." Good idea. But I think something that should be kept in mind here can be found on this page of the Coconino National Forest website under "Dispersed Camping Guidelines:" http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino/home/?cid=stelprdb5313448 Specifically: "6. Please do not camp in or drive through open meadowland due to the scarring effect it causes." This is where I believe the female ranger who gave Don a hard time was focusing her displeasure. Of course, I wasn't there so I don't know for sure. I guess it's just a good idea that we all try to figure out how to stay "off the meadow." I know this can be a royal pain for those with larger RVs, but I have a sneaking suspicion that we'll get our hands slapped again if we park too close to the meadow. Just some additional info and thoughts on the topic. Chris ---- stevecoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: ============Howdy all; I drove to the Blue Ridge ranger station today and found very helpful folks. Their names were Helen Poe and Marshall (I did not get a last name). They said that as long we are parking no further than 300 feet from the road there is no problem. I invited them to come out and observe, maybe they will take us up on it. They said that they did not know how the woman ranger was who would have chased Don off the site and I could not help there. They pointed out on the map another open area near the ranger station (about 10 miles north of the cafe and gas station on Hwy. 87). I think I found it and there was room for about 4 vehicles. After that I drove to the usual Fred's Meadow site and paced off 100 paces for 300 feet. I marked the spot with a log and some rocks (hey, it's me). The marker is very close to the distance from the road we have used all along. In the hopes that the shooters and fire starters will not return often maybe we can still use the site. I plan to go there for next New Moon, starting the last Wednesday of August. I do think that the idea of scouting some new areas is a good one, ya can't have too many observing sites. One more thing, Helen said that as long as the shooters are being safe, they can shoot all day and all night (!) as long as they are not on posted land near houses. Clear skies to us all; Steve Coe -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.