[AZ-Observing] Re: Info: Dispersed Camping Guidelines - Coconino NF...

  • From: "Lucia Wheele" <nyclady@xxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:45:15 -0700

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Lucia Wheele
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Lynn Blackburn
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:18 PM
To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Info: Dispersed Camping Guidelines - Coconino 
NF...

Chris, Have you thought about Bargman Park, as it is not such a bowl as FM 
and may have better seeing. Lynn



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From: Chris Hanrahan <chris.hanrahan@xxxxxxx>
To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:15 PM
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Info: Dispersed Camping Guidelines - Coconino NF...


Hey Steve,

Thanks for looking into this at the Ranger Station.  I read that you "paced 
off...300 feet."  Good idea.  But I think something that should be kept in 
mind here can be found on this page of the Coconino National Forest website 
under "Dispersed Camping Guidelines:"

http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino/home/?cid=stelprdb5313448

Specifically: "6. Please do not camp in or drive through open meadowland due 
to the scarring effect it causes."

This is where I believe the female ranger who gave Don a hard time was 
focusing her displeasure.  Of course, I wasn't there so I don't know for 
sure.

I guess it's just a good idea that we all try to figure out how to stay "off 
the meadow."  I know this can be a royal pain for those with larger RVs, but 
I have a sneaking suspicion that we'll get our hands slapped again if we 
park too close to the meadow.

Just some additional info and thoughts on the topic.

Chris






---- stevecoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

============Howdy all;

I drove to the Blue Ridge ranger station today and found very helpful
folks.  Their names were Helen Poe and Marshall (I did not get a last
name).  They said that as long we are parking no further than 300 feet
from the road there is no problem.  I invited them to come out and
observe, maybe they will take us up on it.  They said that they did not
know how the woman ranger was who would have chased Don off the site and
I could not help there.

They pointed out on the map another open area near the ranger station
(about 10 miles north of the cafe and gas station on Hwy. 87).  I think
I found it and there was room for about 4 vehicles.

After that I drove to the usual Fred's Meadow site and paced off 100
paces for 300 feet.  I marked the spot with a log and some rocks (hey,
it's me).  The marker is very close to the distance from the road we
have used all along.  In the hopes that the shooters and fire starters
will not return often maybe we can still use the site.  I plan to go
there for next New Moon, starting the last Wednesday of August.

I do think that the idea of scouting some new areas is a good one, ya
can't have too many observing sites.  One more thing, Helen said that as
long as the shooters are being safe, they can shoot all day and all
night (!) as long as they are not on posted land near houses.

Clear skies to us all;
Steve Coe
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