[AZ-Observing] Re: Info: Dispersed Camping Guidelines - Coconino NF...
- From: Chris Hanrahan <chris.hanrahan@xxxxxxx>
- To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:02:03 -0700
Hey Lynn,
I have absolutely thought about that site. I recall us driving out there
toinvestigate it once before. On the Coconino NF Motor Use Map, that south
side of the "park" is listed as FR 294 and falls under the "300 foot rule"
for Dispersed Camping.
I have a feeling everyone is set on FM for the Labor Day weekend, which is
fine. I intend to "scout" a few places while we are there. Another trip to
Bargaman Park (7,400') is in order, as well as a ride to a meadow which Rick
Tejera was referencing on AZ-Observing. It's located immediately east of
Apache Maid Mtn. On topos it shows "T-Bar Ranch."
Also, I'm intrigued by the general area just east of Mormon Lake. From
Google Earth and topos FR 125 exits Lake Mary Road to the east and gains
elevation. Looks like lots of wide-open spaces with a smattering of trees
inthe vicinity of Pine Hill. Elevation appears to be around 7,200'+. This
Anderson Mesa area has piqued my interest as it's a plateau, and it's
apparently good enough for professional astronomers. Cool air drainage /
lousy seeing conditions should (theoretically) be less of an issue.
Looking forward to catching up and exploring with you once again.
Chris
On 8/23/2013 12:18 PM, Lynn Blackburn wrote:
Chris, Have you thought about Bargman Park, as it is not such a bowl as FM
and may have better seeing. Lynn ________________________________ From:
ChrisHanrahan <chris.hanrahan@xxxxxxx>[1] To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[2]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:15 PM Subject: [AZ-Observing] Info:
DispersedCamping Guidelines - Coconino NF... Hey Steve, Thanks for looking
into this at the Ranger Station. I read that you "paced off...300 feet."
Good idea. But I think something that should be kept in mind here can be
found on this page of the Coconino National Forest website under "Dispersed
Camping Guidelines:"
http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino/home/?cid=stelprdb5313448
Specifically: "[3]6. Please do not camp in or drive through open meadowland
due to the scarring effect it causes." This is where I believe the female
ranger who gave Don a hard time was focusing her displeasure. Of course, I
wasn't there so I don't know for sure. I guess it's just a good idea that we
all try to figure out how to stay "off the meadow." I know this can be a
royal pain for those with larger RVs, but I have a sneaking suspicion that
we'll get our hands slapped again if we park too close to the meadow. Just
some additional info and thoughts on the topic. Chris ----
stevecoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[4] wrote: ============Howdy all; I drove to the
Blue Ridge ranger station today and found very helpful folks. Their names
were Helen Poe and Marshall (I did not get a last name). They said that as
long we are parking no further than 300 feet from the road there is no
problem. I invited them to come out and observe, maybe they will take us up
on it. They said that they did not know how the woman ranger was who would
have chased Don off the site and I could not help there. They pointed out on
the map another open area near the ranger station (about 10 miles north of
the cafe and gas station on Hwy. 87). I think I found it and there was room
for about 4 vehicles. After that I drove to the usual Fred's Meadow site and
paced off 100 paces for 300 feet. I marked the spot with a log and some
rocks (hey, it's me). The marker is very close to the distance from the
roadwe have used all along. In the hopes that the shooters and fire
starterswill not return often maybe we can still use the site. I plan to go
there for next New Moon, starting the last Wednesday of August. I do think
that the idea of scouting some new areas is a good one, ya can't have too
many observing sites. One more thing, Helen said that as long as the
shooters are being safe, they can shoot all day and all night (!) as long as
they are not on posted land near houses. Clear skies to us all; Steve Coe --
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