I think it might be fair to say that while today's opticians are probably no "better" than the guys that worked for Parks, Cave, etc, modern equipment and procedures allow manufacturers to produce *consistent* results at a higher level of average quality than that of old. Carl Zambuto has stated that his reputation for high mirror quality results from extremely tight control of the fabrication process, which includes the use of "secret" techniques that serve to produce nearly perfect, ultra smooth surfaces *every time*. It is true that hand-made optics can also be perfect, but it is also true that (as far as I know) all of the well-known mirror makers use machines to grind and polish their glass because they need to produce in quantity. But, final figuring is usually still done by hand, and therein lies the magic of mirror grinding . . . It would be interesting to develop a database of mirror interferograms. I imagine some nut in a motor home converted into a test lab, cruising to all the big star parties, and offering to test any and all scope mirrors for free or a small donation to the dark sky association. It would be kind of like getting your blood pressure taken at the mall, but not . . . Anyone have an extra 32 footer and/or a mobile interferometer? Matt -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.