I agree with Jack. I was set up next to him and looked for IC 1296 in his 20 and in my 14-1/2. This object is definitely not a piece of cake. I think Steve was just messing around with us. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Jones" <Telescoper@xxxxxxx> To: "AZ Observing List" <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: [AZ-Observing] IC 1296 > IC 1296 is a real challenge object and those back East have tussled with > it > lately, calling it impossible or glimpsed in very large aperture in good > seeing only. Dave Kriege sees it with a video camera but not visually in > his > 25". Arizona clear dark skies help a lot. Bill Ferris sees it in his 18" > at > 7000 ft. Both Peter and I saw it in our 25 and 20" scopes Sat night at > Antenna site. Steve Coe saw it immediately in my scope before any of us > eventually got a handle on it, but I don't know if he was kidding or not. > He > centered it and described it, like it was a piece of cake. It may be that > he > has tracked it down in the past and knew what to look for. > > IC 1296 is 4' WNW of M57 (p.a. 303). Argo Navis reports it as 15.1 with a > surface brightness of 15.2. Luginbuhl & Skiff (p 165) has it at mag 'z' > 15.4 > (taken from CGCG). Megastar shows it as 14.8 (p). Uranometria doesn't show > it > inthe first edition, but the 2nd edition shows it as a pimple on the edge > of > M57. It is not in the SAC database. It has a very easily recognizable > asterism > to help confirm it: it is inside a hexagon of stars with a star in the > center > right next to it, so the location can be positively known. It's just a > matter > of waiting (camping), and then you either see it or you don't. > > Jack > > > -- > See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please > send personal replies to the author, not the list. > > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.