I do not think you need to feel apologetic. I simply made the statement that I heard in the 1980's some astronomers were going around Arizona to encourage municipalities and counties to adopt lighting ordnances. I then welcomed anyone to verify or correct this information. I had not intended, nor thought, this would become such a point of dispute. Brian doesn't know and so I will research the issue myself. I will report what I find although it may be awhile because I will be away from my pc for the next 3 days or a week starting tomorrow. Stan chaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >Sorry, missed that. I shoulda followed that old saying "never jump in in the >middle of conversation". Well at least my dad preached that. > >Chuck Shields > > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.