Albert; I plan on being there by 6 PM, setting up the scope, trying to catch a nap in the back of the Subaru and then getting up and around once the Moon sets. That is my plan. If you would like to get a nap at home and then arrive around 11 PM, that is another way to do it. But, that means that you need to set up a scope in darkness AND you will need to give a honk on the horn as you approach the observing site. Might be better for first time out to arrive by 6 (leave home before 5) and nap. Looking forward to seeing you there; Steve stevecoe@xxxxxxxxx Author: Deep Sky Observing--The Astronomical Tourist Saguaro Astronomy Club web site: www.saguaroastro.org -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.