I'm heading out to Fred's Meadow on Saturday and hope to stay for 5 days or so. Don Pfirrmann On Friday, August 22, 2014 6:13 PM, Jim Waters <james.t.waters@xxxxxxx> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Brian Skiff Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:53 PM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Fred's Meadow condition On Thu, 2014-08-21 at 23:41 -0400, Paul Lind wrote: > Steve, thanks for the update. -Paul Looks as though things will clear out up here by Friday night, but I doubt it'll really be workable viewing-wise until at least Saturday night to let the air dry out a bit. The coming week, in any case, looks favorable from Sunday onward. It might be worth mentioning here that the new run of medium-term climate forecasts were issued earlier today (Thursday): http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/30day http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/two_class.php ...which continues the trend of higher odds of wetter weather through the winter. The El Nino signal is rather weak, so high precipitation amounts (total snowfall in Flagstaff especially) are not strongly correlated. But I continue to operate on the assumption that things will be more cloudy than usual through the normally clear autumn months. One possibly interesting effect is that much of the slightly warmer Pacific ocean water is not along the equator (i.e. the typical El Nino pattern), but instead is along the coast westward from Baja and southern California. The extra atmospheric moisture associated with that warm zone is why the precip maps linked above show wet weather for the Southwest from now right through the end of the year. The normally dry southwest winds from over the eastern Pacific that we get in autumn will instead be rather humid. So any disturbances in that flow will increase the odds of having rain (and eventually snow) events. I'm betting even more on lots of subtropical-jet cirrus and altocumulus/stratus for days on end even if it is not especially rainy. As Steve Coe is fond of saying: we shall see! \Brian -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.