Chris, I check the M V usage map that Tom had linked to and the site I've noted is also the "Dotted Line" type indicate the same 300' restriction that applies at FM. Rick Tejera (K7TEJ) Saguaro Astronomy Club www.saguaroastro.org Thunderbird Amateur Radio Club www.w7tbc.org Yes, I agree that approximately 30' from the roadway isn't much, however, it opens up many more areas to us (includingRick Tejera's spot as mentioned in previous posts today), as opposed to only those with the 300' dispersed camping rule. Of course, thismay mean that we may have to walk further set up, and use, our telescopesbut a little exercise would do us all some good. 4) Having a few "new" or "alternate" spots is never a bad thing. Just my thoughts... Chris On 8/18/2013 12:13 PM, Tom Polakis wrote: ---- "David M. Douglass" <dmdouglass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I responded that I knew that location, and have used it several times. It is among my favorites, and it is/was a good one, with some conditions. Among those, I said that we COULD NOT use the meadow. I think Tom did an excellent job of explaining why (the 300' rule). I had left that out. Just for the record, I do not endorse the notion that we CAN NOT use the meadow. I posted the two images to illustrate that we are very near, and maybe slightly beyond the limit. Perhaps these photos and some knowledge of the Forest Service's policycould be used to argue our case to stay at the meadow, if that's what we want. It seems like there is a lot of scurrying around to find a new site.If we're going to bother with that, I'd recommend a place that's slightly above the surrounding terrain (i.e. not another meadow), which wouldoffer better seeing, and nighttime low temperatures that are at least 10degrees warmer. I know, that's a tall order when you're trying to find a flat place for a couple dozen observers to set up. If we accept compromised horizons in every direction but south, perhaps it's doable. Tom -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. --- Links --- 1 mailto:dmdouglass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.