Given the fact that it took me me two years of calculus to understand the concept and that I never did master the actual workings of it (although I passed due to the pity of my instructors), Here is a chart I created in Skymap with the Distance (in AU, I'll let yuo do the math :)) and Size, along with magnitude & phase (thought I'd throiw that in because I could). Looks like ours Mars party on the 4th of Oct will still have the planet at 90% of it's maximum size. Ephemeris of Mars Date Mag Diam " Distance Phase 19 Aug 2003 -2.8 24.80 0.3773612 0.993 21 Aug 2003 -2.8 24.94 0.3753689 0.995 23 Aug 2003 -2.8 25.03 0.3739249 0.996 25 Aug 2003 -2.9 25.09 0.3730394 0.997 27 Aug 2003 -2.9 25.11 0.3727202 0.998 29 Aug 2003 -2.9 25.10 0.3729725 0.998 31 Aug 2003 -2.9 25.04 0.3737977 0.998 02 Sep 2003 -2.8 24.95 0.3751931 0.997 04 Sep 2003 -2.8 24.82 0.3771529 0.996 06 Sep 2003 -2.8 24.65 0.3796690 0.994 08 Sep 2003 -2.7 24.46 0.3827321 0.992 10 Sep 2003 -2.7 24.23 0.3863328 0.989 12 Sep 2003 -2.6 23.97 0.3904612 0.986 14 Sep 2003 -2.6 23.69 0.3951078 0.983 16 Sep 2003 -2.5 23.38 0.4002623 0.980 18 Sep 2003 -2.5 23.06 0.4059140 0.976 20 Sep 2003 -2.4 22.72 0.4120516 0.972 22 Sep 2003 -2.4 22.36 0.4186629 0.968 24 Sep 2003 -2.3 21.99 0.4257349 0.964 26 Sep 2003 -2.3 21.60 0.4332533 0.960 28 Sep 2003 -2.2 21.21 0.4412023 0.955 30 Sep 2003 -2.1 20.82 0.4495642 0.951 02 Oct 2003 -2.1 20.42 0.4583209 0.947 04 Oct 2003 -2.0 20.02 0.4674549 0.942 06 Oct 2003 -1.9 19.62 0.4769504 0.938 08 Oct 2003 -1.9 19.23 0.4867934 0.934 10 Oct 2003 -1.8 18.83 0.4969715 0.930 12 Oct 2003 -1.8 18.44 0.5074738 0.926 14 Oct 2003 -1.7 18.06 0.5182906 0.922 16 Oct 2003 -1.6 17.68 0.5294128 0.918 18 Oct 2003 -1.6 17.31 0.5408319 0.915 20 Oct 2003 -1.5 16.94 0.5525394 0.911 22 Oct 2003 -1.5 16.58 0.5645271 0.908 24 Oct 2003 -1.4 16.23 0.5767862 0.905 26 Oct 2003 -1.3 15.88 0.5893068 0.902 28 Oct 2003 -1.3 15.55 0.6020776 0.899 30 Oct 2003 -1.2 15.22 0.6150872 0.896 01 Nov 2003 -1.2 14.90 0.6283250 0.894 03 Nov 2003 -1.1 14.58 0.6417821 0.891 05 Nov 2003 -1.1 14.28 0.6554511 0.889 07 Nov 2003 -1.0 13.98 0.6693262 0.887 09 Nov 2003 -1.0 13.70 0.6834026 0.885 11 Nov 2003 -0.9 13.42 0.6976759 0.883 13 Nov 2003 -0.8 13.14 0.7121426 0.881 15 Nov 2003 -0.8 12.88 0.7267991 0.880 17 Nov 2003 -0.7 12.62 0.7416420 0.878 19 Nov 2003 -0.7 12.37 0.7566675 0.877 21 Nov 2003 -0.7 12.13 0.7718711 0.876 23 Nov 2003 -0.6 11.89 0.7872470 0.875 25 Nov 2003 -0.6 11.66 0.8027880 0.874 Rick In a message dated 8/18/2003 15:41:18 US Mountain Standard Time, polakis@xxxxxxx writes: > I just pasted Peter's table into a spreadsheet, and the curve looks a bit > different than the sine wave that I had in my mind -- more sharply peaked. > > http://www.psiaz.com/polakis/diameter.jpg > > And for those on the list who enjoy calculus as a hobby, here's the rate > of change in angular diameter for the rest of the year. > > http://www.psiaz.com/polakis/change.jpg > > The plot is jagged due to round-off error: there are only two decimal > points in the table on the EVAC site. > > Obviously, the angular size of Mars is not changing when it is at its > maximum on August 27. Its size is declining most rapidly (0.2" per day) > in early October, about five weeks past opposition. That's when we're > pulling away from it the most rapidly, and not coincidentally when > it's "stationary" at the end of the retrograde loop. > > Tom (who really doesn't enjoy calculus as a hobby, honest) > > > Rick Tejera Editor SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club Phoenix, Arizona SaguaroAstro@xxxxxxx www.saguaroastro.org -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.