Brian, et al; Just wondering on this subject. If I counted the number of stars in a globular cluster that were resolved at the same magnification from night to night, would that also be a good test of seeing? Any of the big Messier's might be too much to do consistently, but how about M 71 or M 56, where the Nexstar 11 would resolve 5 stars or so in poor seeing and 10 to 20 on better nights. Would variable stars in the clusters make that method invalid? Steve Coe Author "Deep Sky Observing--The Astronomical Tourist" Saguaro Astronomy Club website www.saguaroastro.org -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.