Since it hasn't been mentioned here yet, and will affect travel plans up on the Rim, the Coconino Forest will be closed starting Friday. All off-highway travel is forbidden. Details starting at: http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coconino Five Mile Meadow is on the Coconino, by the way. \Brian -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.