[AZ-Observing] Re: Cherry Rd Monday Nite, land use

  • From: Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:45:49 -0700 (PDT)

Most national lands is usable, but pay attention to signs. If an area
is marked closed, don't go on it.

Wilderness areas are for non-mechanized use only. Technically, this
might mean that a motorized telescope isn't legal. But practically,
wilderness areas are not good observing sites as you can't drive in
them. Often there are cherry stemed roads that are not wilderness,
but lead to the wilderness. If you stay on or right near the road,
you are probably ok.

The trickiest issue is state trust land (STL). This is land given to
the state of arizona by the feds when arizona became a state. You can
only legally use these lands if you pay for it. There is a permit
available for use, and hunters and fishermen can use this land as
their permits allow this (but only for fishing and hunting!).

The biggest problem is that there is STL all over the place and it
isn't always well marked. But in general, if you are on a decent
(even dirt) road, STL will be marked. Ignore this at your peril.
Fines are very large if you don't have a permit. 

Get a good set of maps that shows land ownership. If in doubt, try to
call the controlling body. The numbers for BLM, and National Forrests
can be found on the web. The state controls STL, and contact
information can be found online for that as well. The web sites for
the BLM and the National Forrests are worth examining for various
rules. 


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