Mountain lion attacks are pretty rare, though the annual occurances in North America have increased significantly to about 4 per year over the last decade. Of course, not all attacks are fatal. Between 1890 and 1990 in the U.S. and Canada, there were 9 human fatalities confirmed as the result of mountain lion attacks. There were 7 fatalities during the decade from 1991 to 2000. Historically, most attacks targeted children. More recently, most attacks on adults happened while the person was jogging. When you run, you look like dinner. Most experts agree, the best course of action if you're lucky enough to see the mountain lion before it pounces is to stand your ground & raise your arms to make yourself look as big as possible (Don't run; that looking like dinner thing, again.) and make noise. As far as risk goes, mountain lions rank well down the list of causes of human demise. You're far more likely to die as a result of a bee sting, an attack from a pet, a lightning strike or even a wrestling match with a soda machine. That's right, you know who I'm talking about: the guy who loses his 70-cents in the Pepsi machine and decides if he shakes the machine vigorously he'll either provoke the release of his soda or of his change. During the 20th Century, more people were killed as a reult of crushing encounters with vending machines than from mountain lion attaks. The lesson in this is, be careful where you snack ;o) And while we're on the subject of exagerated risks, which includes the risk we face from thugs when observing out in the middle of nowhere--it's called "the middle of nowhere" for a reason, I was surprised and relieved to read there are no documented instances of any person being killed by a rattlesnake bite or a scorpion sting in Grand Canyon. Before reading "Over the Edge: Death in Grand Canyon," I was one of those guys who worried about snakes and scorpions whenever I went into the desert. But according to the authors, there isn't one documented case of a person being killed in Grand Canyon by one of those critters. The greatest risk to life and limb we face while hiking in the canyon is human stupidity. People die from attempting "river and back" hikes in July with only a pint of water and a candy bar for sustenance; not from snake bites or scorpion stings. But getting back to astronomy, if there are any documented instances of people dieing while observing with their telescopes, I'd wager the majority would be the result of heart attacks. Most amateur astronomers are men aged 40+. And far too many of us are overweight and out of shape. So, what's my advice for avoiding injury and death during a dark-sky observing session? A healthy diet and regular exercise. Bill in Flag P.S. I encountered a Grand Canyon rattlesnake during my recent trip to Clear Creek in Grand Canyon: _www.gcadventure.com_ (http://www.gcadventure.com) In a message dated 4/14/2007 1:12:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, stan_gorodenski@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Hello Jennifer, It appears this is becoming a debate so let me put my 2 cents in. I feel I have lived to an age older than you for two reasons, luck and being aware of and being prepared for the unexpected. For example, when age 14 or so while butterfly collecting in a wash outside of Roswell, NM I saw a mountain lion tail disappear over a bluff about a hundred yards from me. I was alone and this was not a hiking spot with other hikers that in itself would tend to scare away wildlife like this. Lucky for me it ran off instead of making me a meal. It was luck because now we read about hikers or bicyclists being attacked by mountain lions. [snip] ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.