The Road going north from our turnoff eventually takes you to the village of Cherry if you can call it that. At any rate its a ways off and there are seeming numerous turnoffs all around to the north. I drove north of the Road several years ago to see where it leads you do get higher in elevation. Someone needs to do some exploring I'm sure there are areas that we could use and a bit more open its just a matter of finding them. I plan on leaving around 4 to 4:30 this afternoon. Need to take a nap as I just got home from work. Clear Skies Dwight L Bogan In a message dated 5/20/2006 11:22:20 AM US Mountain Standard Time, kreeves@xxxxxxxxx writes: Steve, Andrew and others, You can get into the site and the way I went in and out did have tire tracks,but the family sedan may have problems with it. My Ford Ranger with regular tires had no problems at all. The gate is not locked and otherwise it looked the same as last year. I agree with you, we need to carefully evaluate where we wind up and not damage the land (no plowing over trees and bushes, etc). As far as other sites, I haven't looked much in that area. I did go up Cherry road (the opposite direction of where our current site is) and I didn't see anything promising. According to the Prescott National Forest map, there are a few roads going north from the highway, but I don't know howgood they are and how useful they would be. There's not much south exceptfor the road between Dugas/Orme and highway 169. Steve, give me a call when you head out (623)551-8092. I have some old hand held CBs, but I don't know if they work. I also have FRS radios which may bean alternative. Ken -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.