This also harkens back to the pyramids of Egypt. Supposedly there is a shaft from the burial chamber in the great Pyramid that points at the celestial pole. Myth has it that Thuban would be visible through this shaft during daylight. This claim apparently gave rise to controversy in dating the pyramids as Thuban would have been the pole star long before the generally accepted dates of their construction. Rick Tejera President Editor SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club Phoenix, Arizona saguaroastro@xxxxxxx www.saguaroastro.org -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sam@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:11 PM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Capella at noon >I have read if you are at the >bottom of a long smoke stack, like the one at Humboldt, you can see >stars naked eye. Philip Plait discusses this in his book, "Bad Astronomy". To summarize, he deduces that there are only a half dozen objects of sufficient magnitude to be discerned from the background sky during the daytime. However, only two of those objects are stars: Sirius and Canopus. The odds of having one of those objects pass directly over the opening of a smoke stack become more remote. And this difficulty increases in an inverse proportion to the diameter of the smoke stack because of amount of sky covered through a given opening. He goes on to describe an experiment by J. Allen Hynek published in Sky & Telescope (no. 10 [1951]: 61) in which Hynek and several of his students in his astronomy class attempted to see Vega pass through an abandoned smoke stack near Ohio University. None of them were able to discern Vega naked eye. Some even had binoculars and were still not able to see Vega in daylight. So it would appear that, while not impossible, it is high unlikely that anyone would be able to see a star (other than the Sun) during the day time with the naked eye. Sam Rua Tucson -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.