Howdy all; I went to Cherry Road and there is a large birm between you and the observing site. I did not have a shovel to try and get rid of it. So, if you are going to Cherry road, show up early, bring gloves and a shovel and be prepared for 20 minutes as an road worker. We had a public viewing session in the RV park in the Verde Valley tonight. There were a dozen or so folks who took the time to look at Saturn and some deep sky goodies. Lots of fun. Leaving for Flagstaff tomorrow; Steve Coe -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.