Probably about 10 years ago I bought a 4" f/12 Bausch and Lomb catadioptic (I do not know the actual configuration, but it does have a meniscus with the secondary attached to it) telescope at the swap meet at RTMC. It never has given very good images which is probably why it was being sold. Although the images may not be good for astronomical stuff, it should be good enough to align everything on my 12.5" Dall-Kirkham after taking the mirrors out for cleaning. I discovered the secondary image was off center quite a bit when looking through the back end of the telescope. I got it fairly centered by adjusting the secondary allen screws. Then I discovered the whole meniscus-secondary assembly moved in the cell quite a bit if I lightly pushed on the secondary housing. When I went to tighten down the large treaded ring, the rubber spacer between the ring and the meniscus started squishing out. I popped it back in place, and in the process of doing so I discovered it is sticky and a somewhat slimy. Thus, probably if I set the telescope on its side, the meniscus-secondary assembly will slowly drop down with the result that the telescope will again be out of alignment. If I try to prevent this by tightening down the large ring even more, then the rubber spacer will start squishing out. Questions: Could this easily be corrected by discarding the rubber seal and cut out and put in a spacer made of thick automotive gasket material? Is there another solution someone may be able to suggest? Stan -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.