Last night turned out to be another example where challenging the conventional wisdome seemed to pay off. I'm aware that the score will eventually even itself out but right now it's Photon Starved Idiots 2, Conventional Wisdom 0. Despite complete cloud cover and actual rain in the Sierra Estrellas while leaving the house yesterday afternoon the skies were about 70% clear by the time Chris & I arrived at the Antennas site just over an hour later. Even though I was sure when I left the house that there wouldn't be any real observing done I had the forethought to toss my 15" Obsession and an eyepiece case in the truck - just in case there was an outbreak of clearness later. It turned out to be a (rare) sound decision on my part. With some time to kill before dark Chris & I headed further west to do some reconnaissance at KOFA National Wildlife Refuge. We have observed from here a couple of times and both of us have really enjoyed it. On this trip we paid a visit to KOFA Cabin which lies about 15 miles WSW of the Antennas site inside the refuge. Just being at the cabin for a few minutes is refreshing to me and this trip was no different. I remember about 10 years ago that KOFA used to see some regular use as an observing site. I'm not sure why it was abandoned in favor of Antennas other than being a little bit further. Anyway, I digress. A KOFA park ranger pulled up and we chatted with this wonderful lady for a good 20 minutes at the cabin. She had thought we might be quail hunters since the season had just opened but we assured her that it was in the best interests of everyone everywhere that neither of us be allowed the use of a firearm under any circumstances. Chris was a little upset that he wouldn't be able to wear his lucky observing hat<http://www.worthpoint.com/imgsrv/images/advertisement/1316030_1.jpg> so she quickly changed the subject and we talked a little about the refuge and a lot about astronomy. She had more than a laymen's basic knowledge of astronomy and was keenly interested in Chris's discussion of the Gegenschein. She mentioned that there was a group some years back that used to bring "very large telescopes" out to the refuge, but she hadn't seen them for a long time. We bid her farewell as the sun was setting and made our way back to the Antennas site as the sun was setting. Upon returning we were happy to see other observers - Paul Lind, Dwight Bogan and a gentleman named Butch who was trying to iron out some electronics issues with his scope. I feel for ya bro. Darkness came and so did the clouds. While waiting for the moon to set clouds slowly moved across the sky from the south and at one point we were nearly socked in. Dwight said "The Clouds will dissipate within the hour sayeth I. So let it be written. So let it be done." Or something like that. So I didn't worry. Having lost most of the sky except for the deep sky wonderland known as Ursa Minor, Chris and I set out to complete an observing list that consisted of all NGC objects north of +89º declination. We began the hunt for NGC 3172 under the mushy, less than perfectly transparent skies of the early evening.. Despite less than optimum conditions, we pursued that thing like it was on sale and we were certainly on the field. In the end we could not convince ourselves that we were indeed seeing the tiny 14th magnitude galaxy so the observation was unsuccessful. Looking at pictures of it today.....I do believe that we were seeing it.....but I can't call that a confirmed sighting. So as of this point, I am still 1 object short of having completed this observing list. I vow to persevere until it's complete. We enjoyed much good conversation and bounced around with the sucker holes hitting objects wherever possible. We spent much time observing Jupiter and over the course of the night we watched the red spot traverse the face of the planet as well as watching Europa emerge from behind Jupiter. With a little patience the sky would settle while we were viewing at 340x with a 5mm Nagler and the amount of detail in the bands was simply astounding. We later used Jupiter as our test object when we had our impromptu comparison of the 9mm Nagler (Type 6) vs the 8mm Ethos. The Ethos was noticably sharper to my eye. About 11pm, just as prophesied by Dwight, the skies cleared. Seeing was a bit soft for the rest of the night but much observing happened over the next 5 hours. In my observing infancy I had always avoided Stephan's Qunitet because it had been deemed such a difficult object. We did observe it last night and I was able to discern 3 of the 5. Temperatures were comfortable throughout the night and I welcome autumn and the trips to the western part of the state to observe and image. Last night was another thoroughly enjoyable observing experience with a great group of fellow astronomers. Looking forward now to next month's All Arizona Star Party. Mike -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.