Paul; Thanks for the value from the gazetteer, it will be interesting to compare that to the values from GPS once we are actually at the site. As for "how high" I am, let's just remember that I DID go to college in California in the 60's--it was the law...... Looking forward to a fun "Heck with Monsoons" star party at Cherry Road; Steve Author "Deep Sky Observing--The Astronomical Tourist" Saguaro Astronomy Club website www.saguaroastro.org -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.