My 3rd grade English teacher said "shall is only used with I and we". Here endeth the ancient history lesson. -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Elizabeth Fullerton Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:36 AM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [austechwriter] Re: usage question: will vs would, shall vs should So, how do would/will differ from should/shall? (I've never known, really, when to use "shall")=20 As it happens, I am very well versed in grammar... French grammar, that is. They never bothered teaching us English grammar at school. My French teachers used to get annoyed that they had to stop teaching us French in order to teach us English grammar so we could then understand the French grammar. So a lot of my English grammar is kind of reverse engineered from French... -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Lecky [mailto:slecky@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:29 AM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [austechwriter] Re: usage question: will vs would, shall vs should >d) I don't know the correct grammar term for, but it feels like an >imperative, eg, in order to achieve a certain outcome, there are steps >that the company must (should) take. Should does not mean must. "Must" is used to indicate when something has to be done. "Should" is conditional, it indicates that it is advisable to do something,=20 but not mandatory. Must is the imperative, should is optional. Shall is the present tense of=20 should and is equally suspect. _________________________________________________________ Stuart Lecky, Project Manager __________________________ HCi Better communications Better Management (61-2) 9232 6669 (ph) http://www.hci.com.au (61-2) 9232 1002 (fax) GPO Box 4846 Sydney 2001 Australia ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ************************************************** ********** CAUTION - Disclaimer ********** This message may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, you should destroy it and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet e-mail for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Expert Information Services Pty Ltd ("The Company") shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. The Company advises that this e-mail and any attached files should be scanned to detect viruses. The Company accepts no liability for loss or damage (whether caused by negligence or not) resulting from the use of any attached files. **EIS******** End of Disclaimer ********** ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ************************************************** ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************