I'm sorry to see that this thread has degenerated into a slanging match as it's a topic I believe is important. At the risk of seeming pompous or self-important, I'd like to suggest that we look at what it is in our posts and the way we respond to them that causes this to happen. I think this list can serve as a very useful tool for technical writers to support each other, and I know I've benefited from it. But I think there's a danger that we can treat each other's posts as material for us to proof-read, evaluate or criticise, rather than attempts to communicate. I don't think we should assume, for example, that it's OK to point out people's spelling or grammatical errors, even if as technical writers we're accustomed to doing that with other people's work. Do you make a habit of interrupting conversations to point out that someone's split an infinitive? I must admit that I have to be particularly careful about this, as a self-confessed pedant, and know that I lapse from time to time. I certainly apologise if anyone here has ever been offended by what I've said. And what should we do when we're at the receiving end of this treatment? I can't speak from experience, as people on the list have been kind to me, so far at least. One effective response may be just to ignore it - but that seems rather high-minded advice, particularly if the 'treatment' recurs repeatedly. Or maybe point out what the offender's doing, but avoid getting dragged into a fight. I don't know - anything I say probably sounds like preaching. But I think we also perhaps need to consider the possibility that there is something in what our antagonists are saying, even if they're being obnoxious in saying it. For instance, I can't honestly agree with Chris Lofting that Nigel's failure to understand his post is only due to his (Nigel's) stupidity. Even though Chris's post was on a topic that I've studied quite a bit, so that I had some appreciation of what he was getting at, I thought it could have been explained more carefully - and Nigel's reaction was at least feedback. Howard ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************