Warren, My GP suggested tonic water for cramps. It is the quinine that does the work. Fixed in about 2 minutes. Bob T On 5 August 2011 15:35, Lewington, Warren < Warren.Lewington@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > ** > I can personally testify when I was a semi-professional rock climber and > mountaineer that abundantly consumed fresh food, unprocessed, cooked > sensibly with good flavour was the most effective way to help the energy > replenishment part of recovery. Anything that was massively processed was > always second best compared to real food. Boy could I tell. > > And I can still tell when MSG or its derivatives are in food too... It's > still being used. > > I can also say however, that some of the gels and power bar type foods used > by cyclists and other athletes do work - I use one gel brand in particular > myself (avoiding any of the caffeine based gels due to the effect caffeine > has on me). I am less and less convinced about muesli bars these days, which > a decade or more ago used to work quite well. Now they just make me sick > while riding - turning my stomach inside out. I'm more inclined to take a > big handful of cashews, dried fruits like sultanas and oat-filled biscuits > (anyone have recipes for that kind of thing btw?). > > Some of the electrolyte drinks also kind of work (staminade in particular, > while powerade and gatorade are more like placebos), but when it comes to > cramp prevention, NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, works better than bananas... > Not even salt tablets. As log as I am not dehydrated, if I am cramping, and > can get a banana, I'll stop, eat it and drink some water with it. Within ten > minutes I can feel it working if I am not too dehydrated. Replenishment with > one or more bananas later in the ride keeps you going. > > Warren > > ------------------------------ > *From:* austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Bill Parker > *Sent:* Friday, 5 August 2011 15:21 > *To:* austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* atw: Re: OT. Shameless self-promotion, or how to handle brain > fatigue > > Christine > With a background in biochemistry and bacteriology ( and to a degree the > public health) I tend to view books of this ilk with a degree of caution. > His data on the cancer/casein work with rats was compelling and I delved > into his reviewed papers. Difficult and challenging conclusions for a > society devoted to milk and milk products. > > The China Study itself may be open to other interpretations an opinions - > one thing to work on a bunch of lab. rats, quite another to get a diverse > nation as China to get involved a study as major as his was. Nevertheless, > the evidence does support what we might all suspect - eating processed foods > is not half as good as eating the raw materials. > > I agree absolutely with the watchfulness on toxins - merely because it's > "natural" does not mean safe. Many of the > Solanaceae<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae> plants > are deadly ( the nightshade) Campbell was of course involved in the > aflatoxin work in the early days. > > Off to get a junk of broccoli... > > Bill > > > On 05/08/2011, at 12:10 PM, Christine Kent wrote: > > Looks like good information Bill.**** > **** > Not completely compatible with my book however, in that I have SOME recipes > that use milk and cheese. The jury is still out as to whether the issues > caused by milk are actually caused by the way it is processed rather than > the milk itself. **** > **** > I have made the whole book gluten free though, as the only way to render > wheat toxins inert is to ferment it for at least 24 hours, and none of my > recipes is for 24 hour bread.**** > **** > I do recommend in the book that people follow whatever diet they have > decided to adopt and use my book to ADD value to that diet and perhaps get a > little bit of the pleasure of food back. **** > **** > I have watched my mother and my sister die, trying to follow restrictive > diets. I watched my sister’s lip curl up as she tried to eat her sprouts – > which it turns out really do contain a very harmful toxin – so the reaction > of her face muscles was telling the truth.**** > **** > This book is not like that. It brings pleasure back into eating, and is > for people who want to stay healthy as well as for people who want to get > well.**** > **** > Hey, Bill, we can look at this as being on-topic. As technical writers our > brains get very tired. I have seen quite a few individuals, over my years > in the business, “hit the wall” and not be able to work any more. Consider > a discussion of food as a necessary OH & S conversation for overworked > brains. I list brain foods in the book.**** > **** > Christine**** > **** > *From:* austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Bill Parker > *Sent:* Friday, 5 August 2011 1:56 PM > *To:* austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* atw: Re: OT. Shameless self-promotion**** > **** > Well, here I go OT indeed. I might need banning as well. Before I bought > any more cook books I recommend Tom Campbell's treatise "The China Study" > and look at the casein data. Nuttin' to do with words as they should be > writ proper!**** > **** > Bill**** > On 05/08/2011, at 11:42 AM, Christine Kent wrote:**** > > > **** > In case Neil bans me, here is my totally unrelated and totally shameless > self-promotion.**** > **** > For those who expressed an interest previously, my superfoods cookbook is > now available again, after all sorts of technical issues related to Lulu > printers, not to my documents or Word.**** > **** > http://www.christine-margaret.com/**** > **** > Actually we can make it example of what can be achieved using Word as a > desktop publishing tool. This book looks gorgeous printed.**** > **** > We can also extol the virtues of the capacity now for Word to post direct > to a blog. The posts on the blog are posted using Word’s blog posting > feature, for any who are unaware of that possibility.**** > **** > Is that TW related enough Neil, or are you going to ban me?**** > **** > Regards, Christine**** > 613 9017 0164**** > 0407 604010**** > **** > **** > > > -- Bob Trussler Phone 0418 661 462