This may not help you at this stage, but before the outline numbering came out (which I have found to be very stable, btw), I used to create indented styles for numbering, then use SEQ fields for the numbering itself. SEQ fields are very stable and do exactly what you tell them to do (so if they behave strangely it's because you told them to do something strange). For each numbering sequence you create a sequence name, and then you (usually only) need three types of that field: "Restart at 1", "Repeat previous number" and "Next number in the sequence". When working with a team, I created a "cheat sheet" with a bunch of different number sequences that they could copy and paste. (Having explained how it works to them, too.) So if have a numbering system like: 1. 1.1 1.1.1 you would call the first number "Level1", and on your cheat sheet you would have three fields for that sequence, one to restart at 1, one to repeat the previous number, and one to progress the sequence. Then you would have a new sequence for each level in the outline. And you can format them to be alpha, arabic or roman. This system is a bit manual, and you may need to do some thinking to get it right, but once you have it in place, it won't break! -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dowling, Terry Sent: Friday, 17 August 2007 4:00 PM To: 'austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: atw: Re: Help!! Word numbering Restart problem Hi Amanda, I think the secret to having stable Word documents is having a uniquely named template (definitey not Normal) with uniquely named styles (that have different names to the defaults e.g. 'list n1' instead of 'list 1'). Don't use any of the default styles. Also in Tools>Options>Edit turn off "Keep track of formatting" and turn on "Prompt to update style". This means you can make changes to the style within the text of the document, then click in the style field in the toolbar (if it's there). Either type in a new style name and hit Enter and you've made a new style, or just hit enter with the cursor on an existing style name and you'll be asked if you want to update the style to match recent changes. Funnily enough, I find Frame to be very counter-intuitive. Cheers, Terry -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amanda Cat Sent: Friday, 17 August 2007 1:28 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Help!! Word numbering Restart problem >If you make sure you have automatically update styles off, you can >fudge things for the final edit and get away with it, as long as the >document is not going to be regularly maintained. This I have done, thanks :) >I still think, if you have any chance to do so, that you get them to >work a different way. I'll do more research. I'm used to documenting online help in HTML and user manuals in Frame. I'm not a Word person and find it very...counter-intuitive when it comes to templates. Why can't they just behave like a CSS??? ;) Thanks again! Amanda DISCLAIMER:------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- This Email may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named. 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