atw: Re: Current agency practices
- From: "Kevin Williamson" <kevw@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:53:50 +1000
This is indeed deceptive conduct as Peter Rule expressed.
The same situation is being experienced in Brisbane where agencies are
taking money 'off-the-top'. A friend of mine recently 'reduced' her =
asking
price because the agency's client had determined that her skills would =
be
required for a much longer period than first expected. As the term was =
much
longer, she was happy to do this as it meant that she would not have to =
get
on the 'search' merry-go-round for some time (sound familiar?).
Alas, was there a reduction! Conclusion, we should all take Peter's =
advice
and ask the questions before making a commitment. That way we get what =
we
have budgeted for after the agency takes their chop.
Kevin Williamson
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From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Rule
Sent: Tuesday, 8 March 2005 12:31 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Current agency practices
Indeed. I have had exactly this scenario in Melbourne with my current
contract.
You agree a rate, get the gig from the client, and then find out that =
the
agency will charge a 2% fee to put you on their payroll (or give you the
option to use a managament company - I think about 4% is the lowest rate
from them). Of course, when I queried this, at the time of contract
signing, they said "oh everyone is doing it this way now". I was not =
very
happy, but there is not much you can do about it except walk - and few =
of us
would do that at that stage of the proceedings. It borders on deceptive
conduct: but I blame myself of course, I should have asked more =
questions.
At the time, though, I didn't know to ask that question!
It is really just another way for the agencies to reduce their overall =
cost
the client, making them more competitive I suppose. =20
Once bitten, I now make sure I understand exactly what fees are deducted
from the go-get. =20
When they ask you what rate you want, ask them what/if they charge for
payroll etc or any other costs to be deducted from the rate. Then tell =
them
what you want.
Pete
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From: Stevens Garry garstevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:55:09 +1100
To: "'Austechwriter \(austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx\)'"
austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Current agency practices
> Hi All:
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> From other colleagues I've noticed an increasing growth in what I =
consider
> to be unusual hiring practices by (Sydney) agencies. The standard I =
have
> always seen is that you haggle a rate (inc or ex of super; I've never
> bothered with all that fancy company stuff) and that is that. That's =
the
> rate that appears on your contract.
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> I've heard that some agencies now deduct a "management fee". Others
contract
> you to some third-party company, which then takes a chunk for =
processing
> your money. Yet another I've heard docks you PI (some cents per hour). =
The
> key point is that you first hear of this when you front up to sign =
the
> contract.=20
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> I don't particularly care how an agency constructs its fee structure, =
but
> all these things should be built into their cut from the get-go, not
sprung
> on the contractor at the last moment.
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> Do any others have experience of these rate ambushes recently?
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> Garry
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