You sound a little bit harsh, Michael. Though no great lover of MS's ethics (or lack of), or many of their programs (but, like most, I use 'em), their Beta spyware-remover worked by the looks of it. Tried most of the others for 'free' till I found all they did was to scan the files and tell me that it was imperative to remove the pitifully few files they found. At a cost (US$30 approx. for any of them). It is still early days, but the MS one seems to have freed up something, because the ol' girl (computers ARE female, how else could you explain their moodiness?!) is much quicker and happier. Man kan gjoere en skjelm urett as we say in Norway. (translates to something like : You can do a scoundrel injustice) And maybe I should support my countrymen and switch to Opera (from Netscape). Cheers, Jonn -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Edward Granat Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:30 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Anyone tried Microsoft anti-spyware? What can I say, Allan (C)? I always thought that the simplest way to avoid installing any spyware was to avoid installing any Microsloth slothware at all. In fact, I once rang up Vet (back when they were Aussie owned) and asked them if they had anything that would allow operators to stop Microsloth's automated installers on CD from taking over my PC and insisting on installing whatever it had, as I saw this as typifying the actions of a virus. That aside, I have found AdAware to be an absolutely marvellous tool. Useful and non-destructive to my files. (If an anti-spyware tool gets too aggressive in "cleansing" things, it could do untold damage in such fragile environments as WinDoze, where a spaghetti of key files holds the whole mess together by a al dente noodle.) As I almost never use the Internet Exploder Web Bruiser (except as an absolute last resort) flushing its cookies, grabbed files and history immediately afterward - and mainly use Opera instead. I also flush Opera (Tools > Delete Private Data...) at the end of each Web session, so my home P of C stays very happy and healthy indeed. Cheers, Michael Michael E. Granat Qualified Good Tech Writer Dude Fellowship Of The Ring Of Tech Writers, Yeah Baby! T/as Write Ideas E-mail: mailto:writeideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: <http://home.pacific.net.au/~megranat/> Without Prejudice. E&OE. Quoting Allan Charlton <Allan.Charlton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > I've stayed away from Microsoft's freebie anti-spyware for all the > reasons recently discussed on this list, and I'm sticking with Spybot > and Ad-Aware. > > Has anyone actually tried Microsoft's product? > > One of our programmers has downloaded it and he loves it. Is my > colleague just a rusted-on Microsoft supporter, or is this new product > worth downloading? > > Allan > > ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ************************************************** ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************