Rhonda, I suggest that you CC your little exercise to Dymocks marketing department, with some indication of the number of subscribers to the austechwriter list - perhaps with a suggestion that they might like to consider what they could do to address a potentially patriotic market of writers that still face supply and demand problems where shekels and the availability of the books are concerned. Regards, Bill Hall Documentation Systems Analyst Head Office, Engineering Tenix Defense Williamstown, Vic. 3016 Phone: 03 9244 4820 Email:bill.hall@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.tenix.com Honorary Research Fellow Knowledge Management Lab School of Information Management & Systems Monash University Caulfield East, Vic. 3145 Phone: 03 9903 1883 Email: william.hall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.sims.monash.edu.au/research/km/ =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rhonda Bracey [mailto:rhonda.bracey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 11:51 PM To: Austechwriter Subject: [austechwriter] Bookseller discussion for tech writing books Coming in late on this discussion...=20 Leaving aside the cultural politics of WHERE you buy and why (Australia, UK, US, wherever), I took a look at the pure $$$ side of the equation, using the latest release of the Chicago Manual of Style as my example (15th ed, released earlier this month in the US). Here's my findings from a little bit of internet searching today: AUSTRALIAN: www.writersbookcase.com.au - 14th ed for $98 AUD + $4.40 shipping =3D $102.40 AUD. Availability - unknown; no 15th edition mentioned=20 AUSTRALIAN: www.dymocks.com.au - 14th ed for $109 AUD + $7.95 shipping (outside Sydney) =3D $116.95 AUD. Availability - unknown; no 15th edition mentioned AUSTRALIAN: www.angusrobertson.com.au - 14th ed for $179.87 AUD!!! (via UK!!); shipping - unknown until you actually place an order (not friendly); Availability - unknown; no 15th edition mentioned US: www.amazon.com - 15th ed for $38.50 USD (RRP $55.00) + $6.48 shipping =3D $44.98 USD =3D $69.03 AUD (www.xe.com) Availability - now; to your door in 11-16 days (cheapest shipping rate). (And cheaper still if you buy their recommended companion book too!) US: www.barnesandnoble.com - 15th ed for $38.50 USD (RRP $55.00) + $5.95 shipping ($12.95 if you want it in 7-21 business days) TOTAL: $44.45 USD =3D $68.27 AUD. Availability - now; to your door in 7-10 weeks (cheapest shipping rate). So, you have a choice for this ONE book: $68.27 (2003 15th ed avail now but you have to wait 7-10 weeks for delivery) $69.03 (2003 15th ed avail now and wait 11-16 days for delivery) $102.40 (1993 14th ed; unknown availability) $116.95 (1993 14th ed; unknown availability) $179.87+ (1993 14th ed; unknown availability) Even if the US stores charged the full retail price of $55.00 USD, they'd still come out cheaper at:=20 Barnes and Noble: $93.51 AUD Amazon: $94.33 AUD =46rom personal experience just last week, Amazon delivered exactly on time and for the price expected. It was my first experience with them - and it was a good one. I've had experiences with Dymocks similar to those others have mentioned - they want a 25%+ deposit, then you wait weeks, make numerous calls, and FINALLY you might get to see your book, then you've got to go a collect it from your local Dymocks store. A&R's price on the Chicago Manual of Style alone would wipe them off any consideration list I had... Just my $0.02 (AUD) worth... Rhonda Rhonda Bracey rhonda.bracey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 http://www.cybertext.com.au AuthorIT Certified Consultant ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************