I'm glad someone finally said it. Canberra gov is a perfect example. Here's how the system works. Joe Contractor is nearing the end of a 6 month contract. He's really good coz he got trained by Jill Nicholson. They want to keep him on with another project. They put a tender out to market, Joe applies as well, they inspect the resumes (not) and give Joe the job. Occasionally they even interview someone or two, usually though even then it is just a case of satisfying the system they did their proper duty to the taxpayer more so than actually picking the most suitable person for the job. It's the ultimate in old-boy networks. Steve Hudson Word Heretic, Sydney, Australia Tricky stuff with Word or words for you. Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Products: http://www.geocities.com/word_heretic/products.html Spellbooks: 728 pages of dump left and dropping... -----Original Message----- From: Damian Forlani-Brennan Yes all the time. In my experience, especially with certain government and semi government departments in WA such as WAWA seem to delight in these kind of speculative job advertisements. Some companies when preparing tenders and get you to apply so they can forward your CV as part of a contract bid, with no guarantee that you will be employed even if the tender is successful. You need to ask questions. ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************