[audio-pals] Re: a question

  • From: Thomas McMahan <thomas.mcmahan@xxxxxxx>
  • To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:36:14 -0500

We have 4 groups at the moment Jamie, Emissives, frilliest.org, Googlegroups,
and on groups.io. Eventually we hope to find a server that is at least
reasonably accessible to all members, yet doesn’t like to periodically crash
and leave us stranded for days and days, and is fairly reasonable with
everybody’s e

On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, jamie <jaimemcgill27@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:-mail
providers that some members won’t constantly bounce.

So far here’s generally the results, although things with groups.io aren’t
fully certain yet because that list has only existed for 48 hours.

Server reliability: 3 out of the 4 are quite good at this point,
freelists.org, Googlegroups, and groups.io.

Accessibility to members generally, Emissives and groups.io are the top there.

Accessibility to administrators, again missives frilliest.org and groups.io are
all good and can be done, although frilliest.org isn’t very accessible to me
when I use firefox and nada. Feedback via e-mail to administrators the
strongest are groups.io and frilliest. Missives does also send me e
-mails but sometimes it can take a log time before I get them, and sometimes
takes quite a while for whatever is to be executed via e-mail to execute.
Mail bouncing from members, groups.io and Google groups so far are the better
options, however, you haven’t seen Googlegroups listed for some of the
previous categories such as e-mail feedback to administration, there is
little to none, and that isn’t good. I know that I don’t travel often, but
should those kinds of days happen, I would like to be signaled via e-mail
then I can simply do things via e-mail using my phone so thats one of the big
killers concerning Google groups. Now back to message bouncing, as I said
frilliest.org and groups.io both are good to very good concerning bouncing
mails. So far I don’t know of any mails bouncing on groups.io, and we have
only a couple members who bounce in frilliest.org, and those don’t seem to
bounce enough to suspend their actual mail, it’s just annoying to have two
extra e-mails per message too because of a bounce notice, then an actual
bounce report.

So yes we do have a group site on groups.io at this time, it is likely unless
something changes that we’ll be moving over there, the reasons tie into what’s
listed above, so at some point all members who haven’t moved over there will
get an invite to groups.io group. I am not going to just move people over
there, a lot of people get mad when that happens, well some do. It’s bugged me
a time or two when groups just up and moved with no notice. I am current in a
group that is on a private server system they just resurrect the group a few
weeks ago, but what unsubscribe options they gave us aren’t working, the man
who runs the group is in hospital, and I guess not in very good shape, and he
hasn’t instructed his wife about recent changes, so we are trapped in there and
can’t get out, so that is creating it’s own spam too. So keep an eye on your
e-mail in near future for a groups.io invite.

If you wish to give it a try though before the invite and of course that is no
problem you can either go to the homepage at:

https://groups.io/org/groupsio/audio-pals

Or if you prefer to subscribe via e-mail just send a blank mail to:

audio-pals+subscribe@xxxxxxxxx

The posting address is:

audio-pals@xxxxxxxxx

Shortly I will be sending out a link for audio letter that I did yesterday and
last night, dropbox users can probably already see it because it went up early
this morning, but couldn’t get sendspace to stop the transfer that was already
going, and have it switch to uploading the letter, I just hope it did that when
I was asleep. But I haven’t been able to check it, because I started with
e-mail first. This is the first e-mail worth answering too, but since you
asked I thought I would answer it as best as I can.

I will likely eventually shut down the Google group completely, it only had a
couple of members for testing purposes, and even though Google generally runs
well, there was no feedback, and I had to jump through hoops to run the list.
Of course there are always some hoops to jump through in running a list’s
administration interface, but the no notifications via e-mail pretty much kills
it there.

Emissives, we have to many members from the free.list side who’s addresses
bounce and bounce enough to suspend their mail at missives. Frilliest we have
a little bouncing, but many of the members who are in the missives group only
can’t edit their personal account settings etc with free.lists. I know I
couldn’t with firefox and nada. So frilliest.org and missives lists will be
suspended at some time, or just shut down and deleted. I may keep one up but
set everybody to no post, and no accepts for new members as a back up in case
groups.io crashes, but I think groups.io will probably be like e-groups.com
used to be. There will be some crashes, but maybe for day or so and they
should bounce back. Not for days at a time as missives has happened with us,
and the missives group has never had some of the traffic levels the frilliest
group has. So eventually we will all be on one list serve is my goal.

It will be a little culture shock for some of our missives group members
probably because they will have to catch up on the topics that are already
ongoing from our frilliest.org members.

But I am hoping we can get back more to how we had it with yahoo groups,
without actually being in yahoo groups, who’s administrative interface is,
well, bad for accessibility, and I am being a little kind about that.

Well this is a very long e-mail, it basically covers all that I talk about in
the audio letter too, but when I post that link you can of course still feel
free to listen if you like, because for once I wasn’t recording from my chair
at home *lol*. Well not for the first half of it at least.

hi all
do audio-pals have a cite on groups.io does any of you know i found one on
there called audio-pals if it is yours please let me know and why have you
got 2 groups
chat soon
jamie

-----Original Message-----
From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Josh
Sent: 05 June 2015 14:59
To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Pet Peaves

Oh, the bacon comment. Yeah, we here in Knoxville are having a bacon festival
I believe this weekend *LOL*. The over there comment I had a doctor tell me
to “walk over there” once. However, in his defense he did not know that I was
blind because I do not look blind just to look at me.



From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 9:04 PM
To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Pet Peaves



Thank you, thank you very much! Nope, haven't tasted deep fried sawdust!




On Jun 4, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

These are great and I hope you have not tasted deep fried sawdust *LOL*.

From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:36 PM
To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Pet Peaves



I wasn't going to respond to this but I have to now.



My Pet Peaves are:



1. Not having my sister and nephews here but especially at holidays.
(not saying this one to copy Bethieor for brownie points)



2. Asking someone for assistace or where to find something and they
answer...OVER THERE. Um, excuse me, I am blind and walking with a guide
dog......Where is this land of OVER THERE YOU SPEAKETH OF???



3. Diet pepsi is bad for me and it makes me do bad things! (It ain't
the rum in it that causes bad things to occur, just sayin)



4. Braille on drive up ATM machines. In the old days, like 10 years
ago, there weren't headphone jacks available for the machine to read to you.



5. That bacon isn't a food group of it's own.



6. That the Burger King chicken sandwich isn't as yummy as it used to
be when Bethie worked there and would bring me one for lunch! They taste
like deep fried sawdust now. (No, I don't actually know what deep fried
sawdust tastes like...)

And my final pet peave....People who cannot accept others for who they
are and instead form opinions based on what they look like, how they speak,
if they have a disability, or what they may have done in the past.


On Jun 4, 2015, at 2:23 PM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender
"bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Criticizing someone who we feel is boasting or bragging is
judgmental as well though, it's a fine line. We don't know what's going on
with them that they are acting out or trying to get across a point because
they feel unheard of minimized. I agree with the premise, but criticism can
also be judgment.



Pet peeves of mine:



1). Being too far away from Heather and Selah.

2). Pepsi is too delicious and not at all good for me...so of
course I want it!

3). Potato chips used to be 16 oz. per bag, now they are
barely 10 oz.

4). Wanting to buy a new car for the first time in my life
(mine is 15 years old) and having NO idea they now cost over $25,000.



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From: Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>
To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 10:55 AM
Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Pet Peaves


agreed, I hate when people boast or brag. I try not to boast.
It shows
cockiness. And selfishness is never good. Should add those to
the list.

On 6/4/2015 12:06 PM, Josh wrote:
> Ok, originally I thought well I do not have many pet peeves,
but then I got to thinking about it and I had more than what I had originally
thought.
> 1. Talking in paragraphs. Take a breather so others can speak.
> 2. I agree with Stacey, complaining all the time gets old.
> 3. The entitlement attitude drives me insane.
> 4. When people talk only about themselves. I understand you
love yourself, I love myself too, but c'mon *LOL*.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stacey
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:58 AM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Pet Peaves
>
> Hey Everyone,
>
> Seeing Josh started a couple fun things for all of us
to get to know one another, I thought I'd bring up a topic, pet peaves. What
are those things that really drive u crazy? I'll list my pet peaves below.
> 1. Judgmental people. I hate people who judge me or others
without knowing the whole story. I feel u have no room to judge if u haven't
been judged yet. This is my number 1 pet peave. I broke up with one of my
exes because she judged me. I make it clear to anyone I get to know, u judge
me, or anyone I care about, we're history.
> 2. Constant complaining and ragging. OK, I know sometimes we
need to let off some steam. I'm no exception. But constantly complaining and
ragging day in, day out is really irritating. It's like seriously? Don't u
have anything better to do?
> 3. Drama. I hate drama of any kind, especially in a
relationship. I had another ex girlfriend who loved to start drama. That
relationship ended with a bang.
> 4. Jealousy. I hate jealousy. Can't people be humble for a
change?
> Seriously. Why is it that people have to have what others
have? That ties in with drama.
> 5. This may seem silly, but that's why this is in the number
5 position.
> People misspelling my name. It's amazing how many ways people
think of spelling Stacey. Most people spell it Stacy, but I've also had
Stacie, Staci, u name it. But most of the time people forget the E. It drives
me crazy. My name is spelled Stacey. There is an E before the Y. It's not
Stacy or Stasie or any other variation. It's Stacey!
>
> OK so those are my pet peaves. What are yours?
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