[audio-pals] Re: VR Counselor is Horrible

  • From: Thomas McMahan <thomas.mcmahan@xxxxxxx>
  • To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:58:29 -0500

I think it’s why a lot of people moved away from it *lol*.  

On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> This may be why state agencies moved away from Dragon.
>  
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:35 PM
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> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: VR Counselor is Horrible
>  
> Nice in theory, but you only have a few seconds to read it and say it.  Maybe 
> 10 at the most.  
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, I have an idea of what I would do to try and train it with a 
> screen-reader running. I would route JAWS through my headset and route the 
> rest of it through the computer itself.
>  
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:13 PM
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> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: VR Counselor is Horrible
>  
> That’s because I read the terms when setting up my Mac, there was a dialog 
> about them keeping transcripts.  That’s also why it is more accurate.  Get 
> yourself a copy of Dragon Dictate and try training it.  It will take it quite 
> a while before it can get to the same point as Dictate.  Although how you are 
> going to train it with a screen reader running and saying what is on the 
> screen in time, well, I don’t know.  
>  
> Apple’s I-Listen was the same way.  Wasn’t that good.  Yes we bought a copy 
> of it, probably have it some place around here, my guess is that it would 
> just make a good coaster now though.  It sure won’t work in this i-mac.  
> Maybe the old machine with Tiger on it since it’s a power PC, but don’t know 
> if it would work with Tiger even.  It is an earlier kitty.  Can’t remember if 
> it’s jaguar or panther.  Am thinking it was the first one though.  Yes there 
> have been a few kitties come and go in the Apple world.  
>  
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> 
> I never realized that dictate was human generated text. I say a lot and it 
> for the most part gets it exactly right and within seconds. I knew tht humans 
> take a look at the pictures that they type back what it is, but the other is 
> surprising.
>  
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 8:00 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: VR Counselor is Horrible
>  
> It is, but keep in mind it is a human on the other end, and they keep 
> everything said.  That’s why I don’t use dictate.  It’s been on this mac 
> since I bought it, but I turned it off.  Would rather take my chances typing. 
>  
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I can’t remember, but if I am not mistaken the 4S is capable of having text 
> and e-mail dictated.
>  
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Heather H
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:21 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: VR Counselor is Horrible
>  
> The bluetooth keyboard is great.  It was getting annoying to have to tap each 
> letter twice to select it.  It was fine for texts but not email.  My fingers 
> are a bit big and this small keyboard takes some getting used to.  So please 
> forgive any typos til I get used to it.  I type too fast to hear all the 
> letters and words.  I am glad I got it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:06 PM, "Josh" <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I don’t think you will regret making the move. The Blue Tooth keyboar is 
> something I have never used on the iPhones, I am sure it would make it a lot 
> nicer and a lot easier.
>  
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Heather H
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:31 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: VR Counselor is Horrible
>  
> Yes, I did it.  I got an iPhone 4s.  I did research, worried, and prayed 
> about it.....and here I am typing on a bluetooth keyboard and listening to 
> what I'm typing in my ear with another bluetooth device.  Technology is 
> scary.  It is great though.  Kate has taken a turn for the worse.  I suspect 
> she has a virus that no onne or no scan find.  So, here I am...finally in the 
> 21st century.  AND DON'T CALL ME LYNN DARN IT.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I just caught this.  Hoover has an i-phone?  She is joining the mac world 
> with her triple decker bus?  Now this is interesting.  
>  
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Heather H <copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Whatev
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:33 AM, "Josh" <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> It has a nice ring to it. Hmmm, let me think about this for a while. I will 
> let you know whether I plan to use Lynn from now on or not *LOL*.
>  
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Heather H
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:26 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: FW: VR Counselor is Horrible
>  
> Blah blah blah.  Don't even think of using that name mister.  You have got 
> enough trouble without me opening a can of whoop butt on Tennessee! 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:13 PM, "Josh" <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Thank you for bringing attention to this there Ms. Lynn *LOL*.
> Hi Heaver
>  
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Heather H
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 8:21 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: FW: VR Counselor is Horrible
>  
> Um, excuse me BethAnn, there was no call for my middle name.  How rude!  Hi 
> Josh and Tom!  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 12, 2014, at 6:22 PM, "BethAnn LaPresta" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> (Redacted sender "bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) wrote:
> 
> I didn't realize you were offering a good sized weekend getaway at your 
> expense...I would really love a vacation right about now.  How about a trip 
> to Ohio to visit Heather Lynn?
>  
> In all seriousness, you and I seem to attract knobheads there Joshie.  You 
> with your schooling, me with doctors.  Oy!
>  
> 
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 2:45 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  
> 
> Well, it looked a little fishy or at least sounded a little fishy when Amanda 
> was reading it. Sounded like he had budgeted for me to get it, but was not 
> going to be dispersing it to me unless I needed it. Well, you know what 
> happens to that kind of money a lot of times. Someone would be havinga good 
> size weekened get away at my expense.
>  
> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 5:15 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: FW: VR Counselor is Horrible
>  
> Makes you wonder what all they are doing with the money budgeted to them 
> doesn’t it?  I know in most States the budget allotment for rehab is on the 
> bottom, but it’s still pretty sizable, and at most it is frozen, not actually 
> cut.  They are more likely to cut services.  
>  
> The biggest thing you’ve got on them is if you take it outside the agency.  
> They will listen to you then because they don’t want it outside.  It’s been 
> that way my whole life, and I’ve been around for a little while.  
>  
> I think you can work out the rest for when it’s necessary.  
>  
> On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  
> 
> The VR counselor sent me an e-mail this morning including his supervisor and 
> he attempted to clarify what he didn’t say yesterday, but says I must have 
> misunderstood because he was including funding to cover my textbooks. 
> However, he didn’t touch the fact that they cover rent and dorm room expenses 
> for students as well as meal money. He only went on to say that if for some 
> reason the money does not come in, in a timely manner then they would 
> definitely reimburse me. He isn’t getting the fact that he is doing this 
> completely different from the previous two VR counselors and he refuses to 
> provide me with any documentation regarding any changes that may have taken 
> place.
>     Interesting enough I found out before my previous counselor left that due 
> to the pay that they were offering for VR counselors, my state agency, they 
> couldn’t get anyone of any quality to take the job. This seems to be evident 
> without her ever saying the first word. I hope and pray that he gets better 
> in time and isn’t just there for a paycheck which it is seeming that way 
> right now. The good news is, he thought he was being a rather smart guy by 
> including his supervisor, but now I know who she is and have her e-mail 
> address. So, now I will start discussing all these new apparent chages with 
> her and see what she has to say about it if things continue to go down hill. 
> I believe I could do his job without a degree or at least as good as he is 
> doing anyways. Perhaps I will talk to her about taking his job *LOL* j/k.     
>   
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Josh
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 9:51 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] FW: VR Counselor is Horrible
>  
> I have fought my VR counselor ever since he became my VR counselor. He has 
> requested documents that no other counselor has requested, he has made 
> incorrect statements regarding whether or not he will accept the university’s 
> recommendation for a lighter courseload, he has tried to shut down my 
> continuing education, and now he is messing with my money. I did gain some 
> ground though on the continuing education because when I first started VR I 
> told them I want to go to law school. Well, the VR counselor at the time told 
> me that I should probably go with a lighter load, so I did. I did make her 
> document somewhere though that I want to go to law school.  I told my second 
> counselor the same thing and told her I may continue on with psychology. 
> Well, it gets to this guy who thinks he is all of that and a bag of *insert 
> your favorite chip here* *LOL* and I talked to him briefly once before 
> regarding continuing on and he said that they would have to see, but he 
> sounded doubtful. So, when I was talking to him seriously about it I asked 
> him if the department was going to pay for me to continue on with a higher 
> degree or if I am going to have to get representation to fight for it. He 
> didn’t answer me directly and we hung up. We started discussing it off and on 
> and he opened up the door for me to ask about law school again when he said 
> that they cannot tell me what to do. I took the window of opportunity. The 
> latest is I need to pick between law school and psychology and let him know 
> by Friday. Now, a new battle has popped its ugly head up and that is him not 
> giving me funding for my textbooks when they pay other people’s rent. He 
> wants me to go out and purchase the 5 or 600 dollars sometimes maybe even 
> $800 worth of textbooks each semester and then they will reimburse me for 
> supplies and textbooks. Um, no! This has never been done this way before so I 
> want answers as to why it is this way now other than the fact I pushed them 
> on one battle so now they are trying to come at me from a different angle. I 
> told them I fight enough battles on my own without having to fight the very 
> system that is there to help me by providing the funding I need to go to 
> school. I am hoping that I can get someone a lot better to handle this or at 
> least make him better through prayer.
>     For some reason though I thought when given the opportunity to go to law 
> school I would jump on it and run, but really and truthful I am having a hard 
> time choosing. I am actually leaning more toward mental health counselor 
> which is completely different from what I was looking at from the get go 
> because if I stayed with counseling and didn’t go for the law school then I 
> wanted to do family counseling, but now the mental health counseling is 
> appealing to me. So, now that I havea choice the turmoil has started *LOL*. 
> Do I go for a JD or do I go for an MA in counseling.     

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