[audio-pals] Re: VR Counselor is Horrible

  • From: "Josh" <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:49:27 -0400

This may be why state agencies moved away from Dragon. 

 

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Nice in theory, but you only have a few seconds to read it and say it.
Maybe 10 at the most.  

On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Well, I have an idea of what I would do to try and train it with a
screen-reader running. I would route JAWS through my headset and route the
rest of it through the computer itself.

 

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That's because I read the terms when setting up my Mac, there was a dialog
about them keeping transcripts.  That's also why it is more accurate.  Get
yourself a copy of Dragon Dictate and try training it.  It will take it
quite a while before it can get to the same point as Dictate.  Although how
you are going to train it with a screen reader running and saying what is on
the screen in time, well, I don't know.  

 

Apple's I-Listen was the same way.  Wasn't that good.  Yes we bought a copy
of it, probably have it some place around here, my guess is that it would
just make a good coaster now though.  It sure won't work in this i-mac.
Maybe the old machine with Tiger on it since it's a power PC, but don't know
if it would work with Tiger even.  It is an earlier kitty.  Can't remember
if it's jaguar or panther.  Am thinking it was the first one though.  Yes
there have been a few kitties come and go in the Apple world.  

 

On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:






I never realized that dictate was human generated text. I say a lot and it
for the most part gets it exactly right and within seconds. I knew tht
humans take a look at the pictures that they type back what it is, but the
other is surprising.

 

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It is, but keep in mind it is a human on the other end, and they keep
everything said.  That's why I don't use dictate.  It's been on this mac
since I bought it, but I turned it off.  Would rather take my chances
typing.  

On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:







I can't remember, but if I am not mistaken the 4S is capable of having text
and e-mail dictated.

 

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The bluetooth keyboard is great.  It was getting annoying to have to tap
each letter twice to select it.  It was fine for texts but not email.  My
fingers are a bit big and this small keyboard takes some getting used to.
So please forgive any typos til I get used to it.  I type too fast to hear
all the letters and words.  I am glad I got it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:06 PM, "Josh" < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't think you will regret making the move. The Blue Tooth keyboar is
something I have never used on the iPhones, I am sure it would make it a lot
nicer and a lot easier.

 

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Yes, I did it.  I got an iPhone 4s.  I did research, worried, and prayed
about it.....and here I am typing on a bluetooth keyboard and listening to
what I'm typing in my ear with another bluetooth device.  Technology is
scary.  It is great though.  Kate has taken a turn for the worse.  I suspect
she has a virus that no onne or no scan find.  So, here I am...finally in
the 21st century.  AND DON'T CALL ME LYNN DARN IT.  

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Thomas McMahan <
<mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx> shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I just caught this.  Hoover has an i-phone?  She is joining the mac world
with her triple decker bus?  Now this is interesting.  

 

On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Heather H <
<mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:









Whatev

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 13, 2014, at 8:33 AM, "Josh" < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It has a nice ring to it. Hmmm, let me think about this for a while. I will
let you know whether I plan to use Lynn from now on or not *LOL*.

 

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Blah blah blah.  Don't even think of using that name mister.  You have got
enough trouble without me opening a can of whoop butt on Tennessee! 

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:13 PM, "Josh" < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thank you for bringing attention to this there Ms. Lynn *LOL*.

Hi Heaver

 

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Um, excuse me BethAnn, there was no call for my middle name.  How rude!  Hi
Josh and Tom!  

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 12, 2014, at 6:22 PM, "BethAnn LaPresta" <
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sender " <mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx> bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) wrote:

I didn't realize you were offering a good sized weekend getaway at your
expense...I would really love a vacation right about now.  How about a trip
to Ohio to visit Heather Lynn?

 

In all seriousness, you and I seem to attract knobheads there Joshie.  You
with your schooling, me with doctors.  Oy!

 

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 2:45 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Well, it looked a little fishy or at least sounded a little fishy when
Amanda was reading it. Sounded like he had budgeted for me to get it, but
was not going to be dispersing it to me unless I needed it. Well, you know
what happens to that kind of money a lot of times. Someone would be havinga
good size weekened get away at my expense.

 

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Makes you wonder what all they are doing with the money budgeted to them
doesn't it?  I know in most States the budget allotment for rehab is on the
bottom, but it's still pretty sizable, and at most it is frozen, not
actually cut.  They are more likely to cut services.  

 

The biggest thing you've got on them is if you take it outside the agency.
They will listen to you then because they don't want it outside.  It's been
that way my whole life, and I've been around for a little while.  

 

I think you can work out the rest for when it's necessary.  

 

On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

The VR counselor sent me an e-mail this morning including his supervisor and
he attempted to clarify what he didn't say yesterday, but says I must have
misunderstood because he was including funding to cover my textbooks.
However, he didn't touch the fact that they cover rent and dorm room
expenses for students as well as meal money. He only went on to say that if
for some reason the money does not come in, in a timely manner then they
would definitely reimburse me. He isn't getting the fact that he is doing
this completely different from the previous two VR counselors and he refuses
to provide me with any documentation regarding any changes that may have
taken place.

    Interesting enough I found out before my previous counselor left that
due to the pay that they were offering for VR counselors, my state agency,
they couldn't get anyone of any quality to take the job. This seems to be
evident without her ever saying the first word. I hope and pray that he gets
better in time and isn't just there for a paycheck which it is seeming that
way right now. The good news is, he thought he was being a rather smart guy
by including his supervisor, but now I know who she is and have her e-mail
address. So, now I will start discussing all these new apparent chages with
her and see what she has to say about it if things continue to go down hill.
I believe I could do his job without a degree or at least as good as he is
doing anyways. Perhaps I will talk to her about taking his job *LOL* j/k.


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I have fought my VR counselor ever since he became my VR counselor. He has
requested documents that no other counselor has requested, he has made
incorrect statements regarding whether or not he will accept the
university's recommendation for a lighter courseload, he has tried to shut
down my continuing education, and now he is messing with my money. I did
gain some ground though on the continuing education because when I first
started VR I told them I want to go to law school. Well, the VR counselor at
the time told me that I should probably go with a lighter load, so I did. I
did make her document somewhere though that I want to go to law school.  I
told my second counselor the same thing and told her I may continue on with
psychology. Well, it gets to this guy who thinks he is all of that and a bag
of *insert your favorite chip here* *LOL* and I talked to him briefly once
before regarding continuing on and he said that they would have to see, but
he sounded doubtful. So, when I was talking to him seriously about it I
asked him if the department was going to pay for me to continue on with a
higher degree or if I am going to have to get representation to fight for
it. He didn't answer me directly and we hung up. We started discussing it
off and on and he opened up the door for me to ask about law school again
when he said that they cannot tell me what to do. I took the window of
opportunity. The latest is I need to pick between law school and psychology
and let him know by Friday. Now, a new battle has popped its ugly head up
and that is him not giving me funding for my textbooks when they pay other
people's rent. He wants me to go out and purchase the 5 or 600 dollars
sometimes maybe even $800 worth of textbooks each semester and then they
will reimburse me for supplies and textbooks. Um, no! This has never been
done this way before so I want answers as to why it is this way now other
than the fact I pushed them on one battle so now they are trying to come at
me from a different angle. I told them I fight enough battles on my own
without having to fight the very system that is there to help me by
providing the funding I need to go to school. I am hoping that I can get
someone a lot better to handle this or at least make him better through
prayer.

    For some reason though I thought when given the opportunity to go to law
school I would jump on it and run, but really and truthful I am having a
hard time choosing. I am actually leaning more toward mental health
counselor which is completely different from what I was looking at from the
get go because if I stayed with counseling and didn't go for the law school
then I wanted to do family counseling, but now the mental health counseling
is appealing to me. So, now that I havea choice the turmoil has started
*LOL*. Do I go for a JD or do I go for an MA in counseling.     

 

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