[audio-pals] Re: Top of the line MAC (Desk Top)

  • From: Thomas McMahan <thomas.mcmahan@xxxxxxx>
  • To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:58:20 -0500

Is it a keyboard with number pad?  Hope so that will make things a little 
easier for some things.  

On Jun 30, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well… it will be interesting. I received notification that it would be 
> shipping out and here tomorrow. The guy said I could keep both of them so I 
> didn’t have to go through the hassle of returning one of them. He said this 
> after he tried to fix the problem and ended up authorizing me for 2 desk tops 
> *LOL*. I was extremely grateful that he was able to get the exchange made or 
> at least take care of the problem. Dell would not have done that, that is for 
> sure. I seen talk about the Track Pad on Applevis and the brief exposure I 
> got to it seemed like you did hand gestures and so forth just as if you were 
> using the phone. I hope this is the case as it will make it easier migrating 
> over. The keyboard we are getting is a wireless keyboard.   
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 3:45 AM
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> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Top of the line MAC (Desk Top)
> Okay, well, now you are crossing into a frontier that I never have, and that 
> is using a trackpad.  
> You may wish to consider joining in one or more of the Mac related groups if 
> you aren’t already in any.  There are some i-phone groups that cross over 
> into Mac, but those are primarily still phone related groups.  Of course you 
> probably still remember the Mac Access group, that might be one to consider, 
> or Mac Visionaries group.  If you join the MV group though, I would strongly 
> recommend creating a separate address just for that group, it’s history has 
> been that it can be a high traffic group in the past.  But that group also 
> has years of archives considering it goes back at least to 2005.    Also most 
> everything that you can do with a mouse can be done with a keyboard as well.  
> Or in my case with a blue tooth keyboard because I like to be lazy and be in 
> a comfortable chair *lol*.  So in actuality I am across the room from 
> computer and i-phone, but can quickly switch from one to the other.  The only 
> time I really have to go over there is if I need to use the numpad, and 
> that’s just because I haven’t studied up the equilavant for laptop layout 
> keyboards for the num pad.  
> I think though you will find the i-tunes experience better over on the Mac 
> side than what they do for the pc.  Although perhaps they have improved that, 
> it’s been a couple of years since I ever dealt with i-tunes on a pc.  I 
> thought it was rather clunky to be honest.  But that was better than i-tunes 
> on the mac from 2005 into 2007, i-tunes was late converting over to coco from 
> carbon.  So of course it’s accessibility was slower.  It wasn’t inaccessible 
> totally, but people would write apple scripts to do functions, or to make 
> functions accessible such as something simple like deleting a song for 
> example.  
> Now if I could only get my linux box to actually pick up this keyboard 
> though, I would really have it made.  Could then switch from i-phone, to Mac 
> to main linux computer.  Would be like a sports nut with 3 tvs, and one 
> remote that controls the three *lol*.  Well perhaps one day I will get them 
> to agree.  
> On Jun 29, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I called “My Apple” to see if it was too late to make a change with the mouse 
> tonight. The guy I spoke to was great. He not only took care of switching out 
> the mouse, but he said it would arrive about a week earlier than the computer 
> *LOL*. So, I will have a Track Pad to use with the computer.
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:31 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Top of the line MAC (Desk Top)
> Square Trade insurance is offered through a number of different places that 
> I’ve been on, I think Tiger Direct offers it.  I’m not sure how it would 
> necessarily be better though, since if you had to actually send the machine 
> back to somewhere it’s going to be Apple, although if you can afford it it 
> might not hurt to have both.  
> Yes from an administrative profile you can see and regulate all profiles 
> actually.  Also your settings that you set in yours will not carry over to 
> the other, well ones like the mouse function etc.  
> Since I’ve never really had to deal with parental controls I really can’t say 
> a lot about those, but I am guessing you can set those up from one of the 
> administrative profiles for the one that needed to be controlled.  But yes 
> using the term account or profile are the same thing, actually I think they 
> now call it account in Mavericks.  What you hear on the podcasts aren’t going 
> to be to far out of date though, especially for fundamental things.  Each 
> upgrade has some different and new things, but the fundamentals tend to stay 
> the same.  Or some of the habits of how I do things here that go all the way 
> back to the days of Tiger are still usable now
> As for Microsoft Suite, don’t know since I never have used it.  Haven’t 
> really followed that particular topic in the Mac groups that I’m in either.   
> with Mavericks.    
> On Jun 29, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have been listening to a few of the podcast on www.applevis.com
> . I stumbled upon some Mac tutorials in fact there are 35 tutorials on there 
> for the Mac. The unfortunate thing is the tutorials are for I believe 
> Mountain Lion or Snow Leopard. I believe our computer will be coming with 
> Mavericks. One thing I forgot to ask the guy at the Apple store was how are 
> the parental controls. With the profiles can Isee all of the profiles from 
> the administrative account? Will use of the mouse on one profile mess up 
> Voiceover on my profile? I imagine with the different profiles they will be 
> independently controlled. I take it nothing chancy should ever be tried using 
> the administrative account. I used account because it seems as though account 
> and profile  are synonymous account in the PC world and profile in the Apple 
> world. Have they ever corrected the fact that Microsoft Suite for Apple is 
> not accessible or does that still remain inaccessible? They were telling me 
> that Fusionware cost about $40 in stores, but they do not carry it in the 
> Apple store. Amanda looked at the retina display and was amazed at the 
> quality it adds for a sighted person. She said the picture of the Cheetah 
> that the guy in the store showed her zoomed in to where she could see the 
> person taking the picture through the Cheetah’s eyes. I guess my real concern 
> right now is the parental controls and the different profiles effecting other 
> profiles. We did purchase the 1-to-1 for 1 year which should be helpful. 
> Someone was talking on the Blind Apple group about a Square Trade Insurance. 
> Have you ever heard of that? They said that Square Trade is better than Apple 
> Care.      
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> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:36 PM
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> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Top of the line MAC (Desk Top)
> With standard mouse you won’t have to go into system preferences and change 
> defaults, but you probably will with the magic mouse or your voice over is 
> likely to act up.  Well especially if you actually try to use the mouse.  Not 
> sure if they’ve solved all of that mix up yet.  Maybe by now they have, but, 
> system preferences isn’t do difficult to access and change values.  Also in 
> there set it to be able to use mouse keys, that will make it easier again 
> dealing with voice over and navigating around with the keyboard.  So in other 
> words, turn mouse keys on if they aren’t already when you get the machine.  
> Amanda can do her own settings in her profile.  Yes it’s probably best to 
> have 
> multiple profiles set up.  One each that are administrative, and at least one 
> which doesn’t have administrative privileges.  Then if you want to try 
> something that you feel might be chancy, you can do it in the profile that 
> doesn’t have those privileges.  Thus if the profile is ruined or crashes, 
> just log into the administrative one, and delete the other, well save what 
> you can from the one that is broken first then delete it out.  
> Profiles themselves don’t take up a lot of room, a lot of the stuff can be 
> commonly accessed from any of the profiles such as the list of apps and so 
> forth, but agreeing to major updates etc have to be done using an 
> administrative password.  It’s probably not that different than having multi 
> accounts in a windows machine I would think.  
> When you get the machine though it will be one of the fastest ones you’ve 
> ever bought and set up though.  Most things are fairly obvious.  However, 
> your mouse if it uses a cord can be hooked into the keyboard, there are two 
> usb ports on keyboard, one on each side.  There is often a ridge running 
> across the bottom of keyboard near the side where it’s cord is, and the usb 
> ports are one each end of that ridge.  So if you prefer mouse on left side 
> you’re covered, although we’ve always put it on the right side.  If it is a 
> wireless mouse that will be different.  
> Once you have it hooked up and going it  and find the power button, it should 
> sound with a G major cord a few seconds after starting, but you aren’t ready 
> to go, unlike with windows the Mac finds it’s hardware first which is why you 
> hear the sound, you will have a bit of time before it goes through it’s boot 
> up still, but it will start talking to you when it’s gone into it’s log in.  
> It will give you instructions going one way will give you a tutorial for 
> Voice Over, and the rest of us who know it are given a key command to press 
> and then it will continue the set up process.  That being giving the machine 
> your Apple ID etc, and setting up i-cloud etc.  
> None of this stuff is difficult, but it will be different than what you are 
> used to from coming from a windows environment and it’s set up procedures.  
> But in reality it won’t take long actually.  A little longer of course if you 
> want to go through the tutorial.  
> Apple keyboard for example has no insert key.  The general pattern though is 
> the same as your IBM keyboard on the surface, but there are some with 
> different names.  The control key is the same.  But instead of your window, 
> or supper, key, it is an option key.  Then instead of alt, it is command.  
> You will have a learning curve, but if you have learned Jaws, it actually 
> won’t be as steep of a curve, it’s more a factor of learning Mac’s terms, and 
> realizing that it is just done differently over here.  Jaws has a lot of 
> stuff that works behind the scenes that sighted people looking at a screen 
> won’t see.  Voice Over tracks and moves for the most part as what a sighted 
> person will also see.  There are some situations where an element may be 
> missed by voice over that is visible to a sighted person, usually happens on 
> some web pages, and also when it just isn’t very handy to happen either.  
> The first few days will be annoying, but once you start getting comfortable 
> and getting around inside the machine, I think you will like it.  Since you 
> have experience with an i-phone, you already know about Apple’s 
> intuitiveness.  What it does, it does and it works right out of the box.  
> Can’t say that about a lot of systems in the phone and computer world.  
> On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I may purchase the standard Apple mouse at a later date, but I do not recall 
> if you said why the standard mouse over the magic mouse.
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> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 5:17 PM
> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Top of the line MAC (Desk Top)
> Not bad, but I think I would get the standard Apple mouse.  It’s good that 
> you get the Apple Care that can be very handy, you would just give them your 
> number and they can help you and you aren’t charged technical support fees 
> then.  You may not need it, but it’s handy to have if there’s a problem.  
> There is also a number strictly for accessibility problems too over there, 
> they’ve had that for a year or so.  
> You may wish to explore increasing your ram though.  That is usually what 
> catches up with age, as they develop it requires more ram and of course if 
> you have minimum amount when building your machine you will notice the 
> machine slowing down as they keep updating the OS.  
> On Jun 26, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well, it will be impossible to spend that portion since the attorney kept the 
> portion that is potentially owed to Medicare. I am glad he did though as it 
> prevents us from accidentally getting into it. The portion that he released 
> to us is strictly the portion that is ours after everyone is paid.
> The Mac that we are looking at getting once we are able to get a hold of the 
> money is, get a hold of the money as in cash form rather than check form is 
> the following:
> - 21.5 “iMac
> - 2.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5, turbo boost up to 3.2 GHz
> - 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR 3 SD RAM 2X 8GB
> - 1 TB serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
> - Apple Magic Mouse
> - Apple wireless keyboard
> - Accessory Kit ( What is this if you know?)
> Software:
> -          Pages, Numbers, Keynote
> -           iPhoto, iMovie, Garage Band (I guess our nephew will like this 
> one)
> -           OS X
> -          Apple Care Protection Plan
> -          1-to-1 Membership for 1 year
> Taxes and all: 1930.45
> How does this sound? Is there something that you would change and if so why?

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